Cingles Info

Pam I want to thank you for the nice words about me. You are a sweetie! I have a
wealth of friends and feel very fortunate! Life is great! I just need more time!
I stay so very busy but do find time to escape and go riding or sneak away to
the cottage so I shouldn't really complain. I just wish I could wiggle my nose
and get this house and yard in order! Oh well...Lol
Off and running. Love, Glo

WE will have to make plans to meet sometime in October if your out my way then.
Hope your having fun in Canada.
Debbie

This was not written by me just so you all understand that..its a rather
interesting video as I just viewed it..conspiracy? View it for
yourself..caution..it has disturbing images.
Okay guys, most of you know I have long said that our opinions are shaped by
the media and we are not always given correct information, just what will
support what the government wants us to believe. I don't know if I can believe
all of this or not, but it is certainly food for thought . . . You may want to
turn your sound down and you cannot backup to re-view a previous screen (I
tried!) so you may want to view this when you have time to give it your full
attention or you may want to just delete it altogether. The tape runs probably
about 3-4 minutes but I wasn't paying attention to the time so I could be off.
Fair warning, the subject matter is about the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon
only. The concept is disturbing but the images are similar to what you have
likely already seen.
Click here: - Preloader
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!

Hi Debbie
I have been off line my good computer crashed,but I brought my old
one with me too, to Canada, so I am back,but won't be on a much
becuase of the surcharge here!
From Novi that's a drive from me. Maybe some time if one of us are
traveling in one anothers area we can meet for coffee. It's always so
Great to meet someone in my area. By the way I am going to do the "6
K Liver Walk" on Oct. 5 for the ALF "American Liver Foundation" It's
out more near your way I think. I better get off here now. take
care~~~~TC

This is so AWESOME & BEAUTIFUL & YOU DESERVE IT, SO RELAX & ENJOY!! :o)
http://dailymotivator.com/memberflash/rightnow.html

OMG...I think I've just become a lesbian then! LOL
To help in your understanding...My first marriage only lasted two
years (including the 6 mos. it took to get the divorce :-) I was
20...it was the 70's...and this blythe young Hippie Chick thought
Love could change anything in the world :-)
But, I did get a beautiful little boy...who has turned into a
wonderful 25 year old man...out of the deal (course there were a FEW
times over the years when I wish I'd gotten my precious Shepherd/Wolf
instead...LOL) But, you live...you learn. Nobody's treated me like
that since nor ever will. I give better...I deserve better :-)
"R-E-S-P-E-C-T...Found out what that means to me..." LOL
Love,
Nancy

b' room at that point lol Ive been reading today and I just dont
understand why someone would waste time on someone who would cut
their phone lines... sabotage their transport...or even treat them
bad, talk about insecure I wouldnt even do that to an enemy ,let
alone a lover. takes in a long breath and steps down off of soapbox I
guess that is why I go so long between women I even try to be
nurturing and stuff...damn I sound just like a woman...OMG I am a
lesbian trapped in a mans body. looking all around"I better go and
hide" step step step step

Probably have to copy and paste it into le' browser
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!
May 10 is National
Hepatitis C Awareness DAy
Be Smart! Get Tested!!

If they ever get to the bottom of the pile of lies that the american goverment
has pushed down the throats of the people to cover up 9-11. It will make
watergate look like choir boys doing a prank at sunday school, and only a fool
would think it wont go as high up as it did for "I am not a crook" Nixen. Damn
he's almost lookin good now by comparision to the lies that come out of
Washington these days.
Bayla <bgumins@...
understand that..its a rather interesting video as I just viewed it..conspiracy?
View it for yourself..caution..it has disturbing images.
Okay guys, most of you know I have long said that our opinions are shaped by
the media and we are not always given correct information, just what will
support what the government wants us to believe. I don't know if I can believe
all of this or not, but it is certainly food for thought . . . You may want to
turn your sound down and you cannot backup to re-view a previous screen (I
tried!) so you may want to view this when you have time to give it your full
attention or you may want to just delete it altogether. The tape runs probably
about 3-4 minutes but I wasn't paying attention to the time so I could be off.
Fair warning, the subject matter is about the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon
only. The concept is disturbing but the images are similar to what you have
likely already seen.
Click here: - Preloader
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!

Pam it seems eerie to me that intron-a is used for the west nile virus have you
heard anything about HCV people getting west nile virus and I have never
understood why mosquitoes dont spread blood bourne pathogens either do you know
anything about that?...does anyone know about that?

Hi Trey and Welcome...glad you found us here. There is lots of support in
this family.
Please tell us a bit more about yourself.
Love,
Nancy

hi all,
i am new to this group, have been diagnosed for 7 years. i am also a
lesbian, looking to meet others that are also hep-c positive. it is
hard to date someone without being honest about one's health status,
which usually ends up with the other person saying "bye". there are
so many people that do not know about this disease, only know the
fear of the unknown. i'm looking to connect with people that are
familiar with hep c and are not in fear of it. anyone please feel
free to email me..we all need support from each other!
take care,
trey

Hi All
We are organizing the fall campaign for Hepatitis C's Movement for
Awareness. This will be a local event held in cities, towns and
states governments across the USA.
As of now, the reports will include, but not limited to,
Introduction
Funding
Veterans
Social Security Disability
Reused Medical Devices
Presumed Consent
Occupational Exposure
These reports will be available via adobe/word to download and print
from all our sites. We believe many will participate in this
campaign.
The News letter will be released next week and hope to launch the
campaign by the end of September/begining of October. We will provide
in the news letter, phone, fax email, but recommend fax, to schedule
appointments for Gov, Senators, Congressman and Mayors. The responses
to our concerns will be requested in writing.
The plan is, although there are so many issues, some are closer to
heart than others, and all participants can choose their focus, but
also present all reports.
These topics are open for discussion and change. Please feel free to
suggest changes.
We feel Reused Medical devices should be included. We can get the
MillionNurses March, involved with this. They pledged their support
at the march. In return we can offer to take a report. Hopefully it
will be centered on the occupational aspects, in such need of reform,
for the medical/emergancy responders community.
If you have not read our report on reused medical devices go to
http://www.hcvets.com/news_letter/reports/reused_medical_devices.htm
Sorry to say It's not updated yet, but will include statements made
to us by Dr. Bento and O'Neil, (head of AIDS/HIV) for Health and
Human Services. These statements included the inability of the FDA to
guarantee the safety of these devices. We will have a new funding
report also.
Click on the icon to read the Social Security Disability report.
The Veterans report will change and focus on Dr. Cecil, and funding
allocated to HCV vets, plus, Veterans bill HR639 is currently
shelved. This is of utmost importance. We need help with this.
Nat. Hep C advisory board members Patrick F. Werner, Mark Reynolds,
Norm Seiff and others are currently in contact. We need all Veterans
Advisory board members on board. To include independent ones
established by various foundations. Everyone needs to be on the same
page with this.
Pat has suggested to contact the 77 cosponsors on this bill and we
need to reaffirm there support now for reintroduction of this or
other bills which will aid our cause. I think this is an excellent
Idea. We would like the bill amended to reflect the actual risk
factors from the pre and post Vietnam era.
We're looking for help do this. Please email if you can help or call
540 248 7324
Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, as most know Gary had
surgery and in the pre admission exam we learned he had a past heart
attack. Good news is all blood flow is normal and the back surgery
was successful. But needles to say, it's been quit a summer.
We need your feedback and commitments to help organize your
state/local governement campaign.
If you can make it, we will hold a chat meeting this Sunday, 25th
http://forums.prospero.com/march_on_dc/chat at 8 PM eastern time.
Just click on March on DC link to enter the chat. If you're not a
member, you need to sign up. They do not sell or use your info. It's
for security.
Keep the Faith
Tricia
http://hcvets.com/public_forum/hma/disc.htm new pics of the March on
Dc
HCVets.com

I don't go to bars or nightclubs. The married guys
are everywhere. The gay guy I met at the HepFest.
And the dead ones? tee hee hee
Actually, that's a new country song, I think maybe by
the Dixie Chicks. In the song the woman meets a guy
she really likes, but it turns out he's married. She
meets another one and he dies while in bed with her.
The next one she falls in love with turns out to be
gay.
Oh well.
Colleen

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Hey Dennis - I was in the middle of negotiations with my Insurance Agent who
I buy my supplement through (I have Mutual of Omaha great supplemental plan,
btw, about $184/mo to me) and they found a Humana plan that was about $11.90
per month for the Part D, after first putting me on one that only cost $5.40
that didn't include the HepC drugs. the one at $11.90 or thereabouts does
cover the drugs, and in fact, would cost me about $400 a month for the
injection Pegasys and maybe I wanna say $28 per month on the pill Copegus.
Anyway, they also called Humana, and I ended up calling Medicare directly to
find out that if it is determined by your doctor that you cannot inject at
home, and they do it in a hospital admission setting or doctor's office,
Medicare covers it at 100% on your Part A (or B, I forget which). So, I'm
going to be dealing directly with my Gastro doc's billing clerk soon to find
out if the doc is willing to see if it is true - meaning the doc's office
has to order the drugs, pay for it, inject me for 3-4 weeks, to then find
out if medicare pays 100%, because we really won't know until the bill gets
processed. Medicare was unclear of it being a "final decision" (no
Millionaires in there! LOL!!!)
So, you might want to call Medicare yourself and see what they tell you.
I'd be very interested to know, in fact, if you decide to. If you'd like
the name of my agent down in the Roseville, CA (near Sacramento) office, let
me know.
Corinne

Gay bars and night clubs too! LoL

Colleen, You really need to stop hanging around at whatever places you're
meeting the dead guys!

yup this is the one from www.snopes.com if this were true where did all those
people go on that airplane?
Bayla <bgumins@...
browser
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!
May 10 is National
Hepatitis C Awareness DAy
Be Smart! Get Tested!!

Every man I meet is either married, dead or gay.

The American Liver Foundation Kicks Off Hepatitis Awareness Month by Urging
Americans to Get Tested and Get Treated
Wednesday May 10, 9:00 am ET
NEW YORK, May 10 /PRNewswire/ -- An estimated one-third of the U.S. population
becomes infected with hepatitis A during their lifetime, 1.4 million Americans
are chronically infected with hepatitis B, and approximately 4 million Americans
have been infected with hepatitis C. The American Liver Foundation (ALF) is
raising awareness about the risks associated with hepatitis during Hepatitis
Awareness Month (observed annually in May) to promote testing and encourage
people with hepatitis to get treated now.
Why does hepatitis alarm public-health officials? In the case of hepatitis C,
the most common type of hepatitis in the United States, patients who are not
treated can develop liver disease, including cirrhosis and cancer; hepatitis C
is also the leading cause of liver transplants. There's no vaccine available for
hepatitis C, and many people with the disease are unaware that they are infected
and have not sought treatment.
"It's important for patients who even think they might be infected to speak to
their doctors about being tested and treated as soon as possible for hepatitis C
in order to preserve liver health," said Dr. Douglas Dieterich, Professor of
Medicine Division of Liver Diseases, Director of CME Mount Sinai School of
Medicine. "Some patients with hepatitis C may be waiting for the next generation
of treatments, not knowing that new drugs are still many years away and that the
disease can become a serious threat to their health in as little as five years."
It is estimated that less than 30 percent of Americans with hepatitis C are
aware they carry the viral infection. Screening for the disease involves a
simple blood test that detects the presence of hepatitis C antibodies.
"Hepatitis C is four times more prevalent than AIDS. Many people are walking
around with the disease, some for 10 or 20 years, without even knowing they have
it and losing time when they could be treated successfully," said Frederick
Thompson, President and CEO of the American Liver Foundation. "Hepatitis
Awareness Month gives us a chance to remind at-risk individuals to be tested and
seek treatment right away, helping to prevent further damage to the liver."
If you believe you may be at risk for hepatitis C or would like more
information, please call the American Liver Foundation at 800.GO.LIVER
(465-4837) or visit http://www.liverfoundation.org.
More About Hepatitis C
Hepatitis C is transmitted through body fluids, primarily blood or blood
products, and by sharing needles. People at risk for contracting hepatitis C are
injection drug or intranasal cocaine users, those who received a blood
transfusion prior to 1992, health or public safety workers who have been
accidentally stuck by a needle and those who have tattoos or body piercings.
Vietnam veterans are also at high risk.
About the American Liver Foundation
ALF has 25 chapter offices nationwide. It provides educational workshops and
seminars, runs support groups, works with the media to increase the awareness of
hepatitis and other liver diseases, and meets with local, state and federal
policy makers to affect positive change. ALF supports research primarily in two
ways: first, by advocating federal policy makers to secure increases in
government funding for liver disease; and second, by directly funding young
scientists in order to attract them to the lifelong study of liver disease and
patient care. ALF sponsors numerous fundraising events and campaigns to support
all of these efforts.

Wish it were so easy...unfortunately I'm one of those that one nite stand
type of things just don't Do It...there has to be Something More...even if
it's just good friendship.
Oh well. :-)

Nancy,
Being horny is ok, it's natural, but just get a hot
guy to service you and then tell him to go home!!!
Colleen

Colleen,
I've always been very independent myself (and raised my two GREAT sons, by
myself, for the most part as well :-) I've also had to put the distributor
cap back on (after I found where it had been thrown in the woods :-) and I
can patch drywall like a pro! (Haven't had to do the phone wires
yet...wasn't allowed to have one in my first...abusive...marriage). And,
whenever I've had a flat tire, some sweet GentleMan has seen me out there
trying to wrestle with a tire and stopped to help. And, by nature, since I
was a small child, when ANYONE has raised a hand to me...my chin stuck right
out and my eyes shot flames (inherited from that little 4' 11" Banty Rooster
Kentucky gramma of mine :-)
I agree that if women ran the world there would be a lot less war (although
maybe more of those nasty, hateful little catfights...say if one world
leader bought and wore the same dress to a state occasion as another world
leader KNOWING that the first one was planning to wear hers...who knows? :-)
And I CAN live without a man in my life (well, not counting my wonderful
sons, whom I couldn't have done without...and who DO help with the Heavy
Stuff as well as provide their mom with plenty of TLC) BUT...(call me
crazy)...I still Really Like Men! (or maybe I'm just terminally horny :-)
LOL!!!
Love,
Nancy

I have had a penchant for making those "bad choices" too...BUT...I have
always been and will always be a "Hopeless Optimist"...and I am older and
wiser now (but my "appetite" sure hasn't diminished...like it's "supposed"
to yet...unfortunately! I'm actually looking forward to that part! LOL)
Love,
Nancy

I'm an Aries...fiercely independent. We're in love
with the idea of love and romance,but if we don't have
it we don't really care. We can certainly take care
of ourselves, change a tire, put the distributor cap
back on the car when the SO takes it off so you can't
drive the car, splice the phone wires back together
when he cuts them so you can't make phone calls, etc.
I have 4 kids with 3 different fathers, and none of
them were any good. The last one I just refer to as
"my son's sperm donor." I also find that my last two
sons turned out really good because they never did
have a father figure in their lives. Ever. And they
are much more polite and easy to get along with than
the first two, who did have a father who was always
part of their lives.
So much for the broken home theory. I got rid of the
men and my home got fixed. Therefore I must say that
a matriarchal society would be much superior to a
patriarchal society. We ought to try it on a
world-wide basis. Couldn't be any worse than the
patriarchal society with it's patriarchal "god," and
would probably be much, much better.
After all, women are nuturers, not warmongers.
Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now.
Colleen

Hep C Scare for Nurse
Man on trial for allegedly spitting blood into health-care worker's face
By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU
A city man with hepatitis C pleaded not guilty to aggravated assault yesterday
for spitting blood in the face of a nurse after being taken to hospital under
arrest.
Ronald Galenzoski, 38, also pleaded not guilty in Court of Queen's Bench to a
charge of assaulting a peace officer stemming from the Dec. 19, 2004, incident.
In an opening statement at the judge-alone trial, Crown prosecutor Leah Boyd
said police responded to a report of a stabbing at an apartment building at
10630 105 St.
When officers tried to question Galenzoski, he became belligerent and allegedly
assaulted Const. James McKee, said Boyd, adding officers were in the process of
arresting him when he stopped breathing.
Paramedics were called and Galenzoski was taken to hospital, where he was dealt
with by nurse Tana Fish.
She is expected to testify that Galenzoski told her he was hepatitis C-positive,
that he had a difficult attitude and that he "spat into the eye and on the face
of nurse Fish," said Boyd.
The prosecutor said there also will be evidence that Galenzoski had fresh blood
in his cheeks at the time.
"And she was contaminated in that fashion," said Boyd.
Defence lawyer Tim McRory told court Galenzoski admits he had tested positive
for hepatitis C at the time of the alleged offence and was aware he had the
liver disease.
McKee testified he responded to the stabbing call about 8 p.m. and found a man
suffering from a punctured lung on the building's back stairs.
Police then went to a suite where they arrested a woman for the stabbing and
questioned several other people, including Galenzoski, about the incident, he
said.
Galenzoski appeared intoxicated and had a cast on his arm, said McKee, adding
the man became "quite agitated, aggressive and belligerent" upon being told he
was being placed under investigative detention and taken in.
McKee said he grabbed Galenzoski's cast and was kicked in the leg as the accused
came towards police with his arms waving. Then, as Galenzoski cocked his arm to
hit McKee, other officers joined in to subdue him.
McKee said Galenzoski was screaming and shouting, but then suddenly stopped, and
officers noticed he had stopped breathing. He was placed in a recovery position
and resumed breathing within about 40 seconds.
When paramedics showed up and tried to check him out, Galenzoski began fighting
again and slipped out of his handcuffs, said McKee, adding the accused ended up
being tied to a stretcher with a spit mask placed on his face.
Const. Don Kightley testified he went to the hospital and was in the room with
Galenzoski when he heard a spitting sound and Fish saying, "He just spit on me."
Kightley told court he saw the spit on the nurse's face and said she quickly
washed it off.
Fish is expected to testify today.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2006/05/10/1572554-sun.html

But that is the hard one to find "A Partner" I dont think i have ever found
one of those. I always find the ones that are more of a burdon. After you
wait long enough those are even fun for a while, lol.
Debbie

Top Stories - Reuters
U.S. Approves Testing of Drug for West Nile Virus
Wed Aug 21, 6:41 PM ET
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration ( news
- web sites) has given the go-ahead for a trial of a drug for use against the
West Nile virus ( news - web sites), while the government pledged more money on
Wednesday to track and control the disease.
AP Photo
Slideshow: West Nile Virus
The mosquito-borne West Nile virus has killed 13 people in the
United States so far this year. The virus, which first appeared in the United
States in 1999, is spreading more quickly than scientists had predicted, and the
season has not hit its peak yet.
There is no cure for West Nile virus, but Schering-Plough Corp. said
the FDA had approved trials of its drug Intron A, also known as interferon, now
used to treat hepatitis C virus, for use against West Nile.
Schering spokesman Bob Consalvo said the work was being done by an
independent researcher in New York, Dr. James Rahal of New York Hospital Queens.
He said Rahal also had done some work with Intron A against a related virus that
has been in the United States for years and also is carried by mosquitoes,
called St. Louis encephalitis.
"We are supplying the drug," Consalvo said.
Rahal said in a statement that the trial will involve 40 patients
infected with West Nile virus, and that he expected it to begin immediately in
Louisiana, Mississippi and the New York City area.
New York Hospital Queens said the trial seeks to determine if Intron
A can decrease the duration of the illness, make neurological symptoms less
severe and prevent death. The hospital said Intron A has been shown to be
effective in the laboratory against West Nile virus.
West Nile virus does not cause any symptoms in eight out of 10
people it infects, but in some it can cause encephalitis -- an inflammation of
the brain -- and death.
Rahal said patients age 50 and older are eligible to be enrolled in
the study, with younger patients eligible only if they are diagnosed with
encephalitis.
MORE FEDERAL FUNDING
The federal government said it was providing an extra $4 million to
states to spend on tracking and controlling West Nile virus.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ( news - web
sites) said it had confirmed 269 cases and 13 deaths from the virus -- eight in
Louisiana, two in Mississippi and one each in Kentucky, Illinois and Texas.
"This latest funding will help states with West Nile virus activity
to rapidly identify new cases of the virus, expand laboratory capacity for this
testing, and continue to track the spread of the virus through the monitoring of
infection in birds, horses and mosquitoes," CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding
said in a statement.
"We are committed to doing all we can to help states monitor the
spread of West Nile virus, detect new cases and protect their citizens from this
epidemic," Health and Human Services ( news - web sites) Secretary Tommy
Thompson said.
The money also is earmarked to use for public awareness campaigns.
While some states are spraying pesticides and others are using bacteria that
kill mosquito larvae, the CDC is stressing personal responsibility for avoiding
the virus by telling people to cover up with long sleeves, to use repellents and
to clear any standing water.
West Nile virus has now been found in mosquitoes, birds, horses and
people in all 37 states east of the Rocky Mountains, and it is expected to
spread further as it is carried by migrating birds. The CDC has said that as
many as 1,000 people could become infected this year.
The extra $4 million brings total CDC funding to states for West
Nile virus so far this year to more than $31 million. CDC has given $54 million
to states, cities and territories since West Nile virus was first detected in
1999.

And...what does the cap stand for? (she says as something obvious is
probably whizzing right past her head, again...right? :-)

OMG what a great tour idea ...Nevernilla (see the cap ?)

I have to disagree to a point here girls (Course it may be because I'm a
Libra, the sign of partnership....) I REALLY LIKE having a man in my life!
But...a "Partner" tho...someone (emotionally mature) to SHARE the burdens of
living...not just add to them. (My dog is just NOT cutting it...in SO Many
Areas! :-) LOL
Love,
Nancy

Here is the link to the article, I love snopes.com it has thousands of urban
legends & sets the record straight
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2005
by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson
Del Compton <go_deliman@...
Hi Bayla
Mitch and.Melly and any one else.
Did someone say this is HepC awareness Day? I guess I'm really not aware of
it!
OKAY.... A bout the Penatgon.. Bayla and Mitch..I tend to do the same thing
and react quickly without checking sources.. which I may be wrong but I think
you just trusted the article. If I'm wrong...sorry, enlighten me on who the
sources are. This is NOT intended to P./O .ANYBODY.. I still beleive the
Kennedy Assination, AND his son's air crash,AND Bobbies assasination, and
Chapiquidick, are still at the LEAST,, somewhat questionable...Jon Jon was too
smart or to drunk to fly in weather that rated as bad as that night, no radar
trainng, (blind fly) and passangers.
I said that..... so you wouldn't think I'm a believe what ever they say kinda'
person. They (ROTC came to our hghschool and called all the ROTC guys out class
to take them to KENT STATE. and they left with fear in their eyes....it (ROTC)
was just a credit to a lot of them.... I'm not blind to all the gov. BS that has
gone on..
Melley, Does Snopes state who the source is when they determine something is
BS..???
I'm planning a BDay party for ME!! June 17th... Bike judging (open class) 1st
2nd 3rd place trophies and a Bikini Clad Bike Wash (MAN....I'm gonna' look bad
in that one!! haha I have to lose 70 lbs in JUST 4 WEEKS!!!
You are all inviited.. I'll send a formal flyer once we get it done.
I'm not makking it $ wise and I've never tried to cash in on a birthday in my
life... but I see an opportunity here..
Now I gotta' go find those Bikini Clad womenssssss....
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hehehe...Could have stood for Goddess Diving Tour, eh? ;-) LOL!!!
It is Good to be Goddess, my Dear!...(First of all it means that the
likelihood of getting banned from the group for pissing people off (I
mean...offending people :-) by typing whatever pops out of my twisted little
mind is GREATLY reduced! LOL)
BUT...It's not all fun and games and walking around with your tiara and
sceptor, you know (you have to wear clothes sometimes too :-) No,
seriously...I get extra buttons on site...that the "common folk" don't
see...that allow me to help people who are not as computer-friendly fix
their settings or post pics (I personally provide a service for those across
the country with no access to...or in some cases, ability to operate...a
scanner by having them send me their pics by snail mail and I take them over
to my sis's house and scan them and post them in the photo section and have
even posted them into individual's profiles if that's too intimidating for
them (they have to give me their password but, it's certainly safe with me,
since I can barely keep from forgetting my own most of the time).
And, I get to see everyone's message delivery settings...so when I start
worrying cause I haven't heard from someone in a while I can go check and
see that they've set themselves up for Special Notices only (which RARELY
happen...I think I'm the only Mother Hen Goddess that occasionally puts out
a Special Notice APB/Olly Olly Oxen Free for all to report in to make sure
my "subjects" are all OK :-)
And...I get a message when anyone subscribes or unsubscribes (and can then
"E" them privately to find out what's wrong...if they are taking a slide
downward...or if it was something I said)
AND, Best of All...I can hit the BAN button on Spammers! (YESSSS...my
Favorite thing to do! :-)
(But, my favorite part is still walking around with the tiara and
sceptor...especially naked! LOL)
Love,
Nancy

Well I think I got it right go to members and find me or go to
geocities and find Nevernilla (sometimes I get dyslexic I guess lol)
I had one on MSN but took it off for a while if all else fails my
addy is Nevernilla@... and ask what you want to know I can
send a pic email and I dont bite, I may nibble and lick but then as
you already know I'm dyslexic or something like that LOL I am not
without my talents though Love Peace and Happiness...Michael

Thanks for the info. I am going to ask my Doc about it. Take care, Robin

Gee Nancy just what was that thing that you were thinking of....fishing? no
thats not it Hmmmm I wonder LOL what is it like being a professional Goddess???
I just had to ask after reading that LOL

Thanks Pammie, My job for the day here is done then! :-) You know, a LOT
of people keep telling me I should write SOMEWHERE (probably anywhere but
here!...LOL) But, I just haven't been able to find contact info for "Nutz
Are Us" magazine....(hmmmm, maybe should try MAD in the meantime, eh? :-)
(Actually, I've got REAMS of poetry and the beginnings of at least a couple
of books (stream of consciousness style :-) in Boxes in storage right
now...and my roomie wants to set my computer up over by the sliding glass
doors overlooking the pond and woods and insists I must write the "great
american novel"....Cept we have to get downstairs and fix the electrical and
telephone wiring that goes to that side of the house that critters (or maybe
the crackheads) chewed thru first. :-) and there's only a small window of
opportunity to do that during the day...so that we can see the brown recluse
spiders...before they see us. (Plus she works second shift and I'm not
waking her (Or the Captain!!!) up when I get up at the crack of dawn (after
my usual refreshing Four Hours every morning!) to go "spot" me while I
"gracefully" mount a wobbly metal ladder and screw around with wires that
are gonna fry my ass...since I really don't know what I'm doing with that
stuff anyway! (Sounds like just another excuse, doesn't it? :-) You're
right...I'm gonna contact MAD first thing tomorrow! :-)
Love,
Nancy

LOL...the only thing I could think of was....well, nevermind. LOL
You toured with the "GD"?! :-0

Did someone say this is HepC awareness Day? I guess I'm really not aware of
it!
Punkin Pie..its on my signature!~
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!
May 10 is National
Hepatitis C Awareness DAy
Be Smart! Get Tested!!

Colleen,I know I hate paragraphs to boot but there have been occasions where
being long winded has been appreciated too lol......Michael

(((Nancy))) I suwanee...... some days you are absolutely wonderful to wake
up to :-) You had me cracking up on this end!! You really should write
SOMEWHERE as your new career (and the $$ would be good too ;-)
Peace and Love,
Pam
Dogs come when they're called. Cats take a message and get back to you. --
Missy Dizick

Michael,
You should try coming up for air once in awhile!!!
LOL.
Colleen

At least it was a fun time. I to have my past that got me in trouble and i have
never felt bad about it. I am glad i dont have the drugs but i can still have
the sex and rock and roll, lol. Those were fun carefree times that i am sure we
will all cherish and remember. I am glad it was worth it.
Debbie

Nancy....vegans were in the first star trek movie???? damn I knew I missed
something when I got up and went to the B' room now I'll have to get the
DVD...Michael

Bayla,
Earth to Bayla....I'm not a Nascar fan...Don't keep track of that schedule.
Would love to come though...but my car won't make it I fear! Maybe next
year (fear...year....she's a poet!! LOL!!)
**hugs**
Alfie
******
Alfie Wace
678-234-0832
http://www.atlantabluesky.com
(simply the best music anywhere on the planet!)
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience,
but spiritual beings having a human experience."
"We must be the change we want to see in the world." -Gandhi
"We ARE the world!" - Various Artists
"...as you did for one of the least of these my brethren, you
did it for me" Matt 25: 31-40

Yes Debbie for 2 yrs I was in a white Volkswagen camper following the Greatful
Dead, selling tie dyes in the parking lots, laughing at the poor security people
who only wanted to go home and sleep, going to all the major tourist attractions
between shows, placating police officers(and a woman with a serious attitude
problem lol) practicing Zen and the art of VW repair, and just having fun in
general if I drop over dead right now at least I lived my dream for 1 1/2
years(till the aforementioned attitude problem got to be more than it was
reasonable to deal with) then moved to the mighty Seattle,after depositing some
unwanted baggage in San Antonio, where Nirvana,Alice in Chains, Soundgarden,and
all the others were bar bands and yea it was Fun I am glad I did it while I was
healthy enough to enjoy it cause life seems to be one doctors appt after another
these days LOL it all seems kind of funny but it hurts too much to laugh, not
yet really but I am not on lactulose yet lol I mean I was but the amonia levels
came down and I hope they stay down cause that stuff can ruin a social life to
be sure...Michael

Bayla,
I have to be honest and say I didn't notice it.
You know how it is...especially when your puter's pootin' on you
worse than a guy that likes beer beans and eggs. (SORRY).
However... Once again.. I have to take issue.
I'm sorry and i don't know what makes me so curious except for the fact that
it is unbelivevable that if alot of what I hear is true... WE have gone nuts.
I typed in Hepititus C Awareness Day in the search bar, and the closest I came
to the tenth was HEPB meeters in San Franciscoon th 13th. However. I did find
in good 'ol Collier County that there was free testing today at ST. Matthews (or
Mary's) in a homeless shelter, so that is where the tenth came in for you....
They also mentioned about 14 other activities for this month from New York to
Fla. to Cal. CAP I think they are called. Alot of work so hard and are
constabtly letting people know about HEPC, and it's not easy, Bayla,,, you are a
champion of doing this aqnd PAM and I'm sorry not to mention everyone... but it
is truly tiring...no matter how good you feel when you actually believe someone
is going to get tested... Which to me is taxing on your health, but that is a
personal decision like helmet/nohelmet on a bike.. That is why in my
eyes...when there is suposed to be an organized MONTH!! Awareness Promotion,,
it is three times as important to run it right!! NOW is the time to hit home
runs, with the bases loaded!!!
I talked to some people about my upcoming Birthday Party/Bike WASH ( Oh I
decided to ask hooter girls to wash bikes too! Bike WashThey will get half the
price and any tips they make.. cool huh??) and Hepc today and kind of got that
feeling I would occasionly sink into when a customer would say something like ,
Why haven't we received those...and I would call the office and the office would
say...Del.... They have been here for 3 weeks,,,
Because I feel like I stay pretty much on things, I belong to groups, ask
questions to dear knowledgeable people...but I (who the party is for) am far
into the last part the of the disease before you get better, one way or the
other, Felt like a disinterested bumbling idiot shuffling my feet saying, late
in the afternoon,, yeah...TODAY WAS HEPC AWARENESS DAY!!! I had to got the oral
extraction man/doctor this AM,, But Hell,, I couldv'e sat in a walgreens drug
store eatin' oatmeal(soft) cookies passing out flyers.
I guess just as the manager of a restarant doesn'f actually cook the steak,
he's the one that is ultimately responsible.
So I guess the ALF does not (and how COULD you not in this day and age of
comunications) not communicate any structered plans to... for lack of a better
term... "ATTACK THIS" It's not for US .. as in you and me.. We are already sick
and dying and poor and have rotting teeth at $300.00 a pull out of pocket. It's
not about US!!!
It's TOTALLY for the people from the future..(UH OH their go the voices)
seriously, it is for the future people, the people now. WE HAVE IT GOSH DARN
IT!!! IT"S TOO FRIGGIN" LATE FOR US!! UNLESS A MIRACLE COMES ALONG!!!
I DO have an article from the American Liver Foundation that KICKED OFF the
entire month of May as Liver Awareness MONTH.and do you know what does upset me?
It is a PRESS RELEASE that was printed in the paper MAY 10th!!!
Whoever did that made a major boo boo. Even if they tried to get it printed
earlier (ALF person) they didn't try hard enough, It says to be observed
annually in May... Well folks, May 10th is 20 days from next month'. It's s
mortgage, I haven't made last month because two teeth had to come out!! The
month of May is HALF over!!!
One thing that is a little sad but true, is a thirsty man will work harder
for his cup of water than a man that has all he can drink....
The article IS very informative and straight forward about HEPC so almost
anyone can understand.
Someone sent me an email saying the White HOuse would NOT recognize the month
of May as HEP C Month!! Did you know the whole month...not just the 10th is
Hepatitus C awareness Day....I mean Month???
I'm truly not bitchin' and moaning due to irritability and combativeness, but
if this is how things are run to try and get Americans off their perverbial ARSE
to do something WE will not succeed .. I'm sorry, but if it doesn't change, next
year will be the same way... and if this is the ALF's best show, best foot
forward...best laid out plan for the month of May, the time that's been given
to them (and MYGOD THEY ARE IMPORTANT!! THEY TRULY ARE!!!) they are to be
recognized, promoting,. struttin' like a rooster and having people take notice,
The month of MAY!! IS IT MAY already ? We need to put up our we support liver
research flag!! I personally don't even care if it's The MUSIC MAN coming into
town.. if you believe it, it will happen...it will ! . May should basically
should be like an open house affair/attitude, imagine what it must be like
inside...if this is how it appears on the outside..... Every one has
different days of awareness or whatever..some know,
some don't, ................maybe I'm just beginning to reach a place yall have
been for awhile....
We (Heppers) could have the largest Army in the world, but if unorganized, and
mis communicated with each other, uninformed, even though we may fight with all
our heart to the death....a small tight knit group of well organized people can
muster more with less. Kinda' like a virus..... Example Israel in '1966' was it?
The six Day War???? What if we had an organized team (like the US Fighters, in
most cases) it's routine...whether they need it or not (in Basic) you shine your
boots..oils gets changed ships get mothballed and taken out every two years no
matter what... a large organiztion is hard to run, and that involves stepping on
toes sometimes, whether it's volunteer or not.. I've never heard of a sales
person, PR person promotor whatever keep his/ her job if the released PR
Newsletter 10 days AFTER the Month the show started It would look a little
funny, if we all did our jobs like,, the newspaper guy would have to print,,
PRINT RELEASE!!!!!! ten days ago kicked
off the HEPC Awareness MOnth and well....there's only about twenty days left,
so ya' better hurry....
I can imagine Mr. Barnum, who always sent people ahead to the next town( they
were called PROMOTERS,) with glue and signs and smiles telling everybody the
circus is coming to town.. Now if those guys didn't make it, before the
circus...came to town, by the time the circus was doing well it was time for the
next town, I Imagine....I would hope, quite a bit. Maybe they have become lax
in their position. I would think I would be seeing more commercials on TV now ,
than I did as a kid. But I don't.
I wonder..... Surely the higher ups are paid a generous salary, with health
benefits.....
OK...
I'm done..pardon the spelling, no spell check. ( he's one of the
voices...spellcheck.....)
JOKING!!!
Deliman

AVI BioPharma Presents Initial Results on Hepatitis C Virus Clinical Trial at
the International Conference on Antiviral Research Annual Meeting
PORTLAND, Ore.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 10, 2006 - AVI BioPharma, Inc.
(Nasdaq:AVII) will present initial data from the second phase of its multicenter
study in patients with chronic active hepatitis C virus (HCV) infection at the
prestigious International Conference on Antiviral Research (ICAR) annual meeting
today. AVI's presentation titled "AVI-4065, An Antisense Approach to Active HCV
Infection: Preclinical and Clinical Evaluation" will be presented by Patrick L.
Iversen, Ph.D., AVI's senior vice president of research and development. See
www.georgetown.edu/research/arc/ISAR for details.
The second phase of the trial has been designed to assess the safety,
tolerability, pharmacokinetics (PK) and viral and clinical response to treatment
with AVI's proprietary NEUGENE(R) antisense compound, AVI-4065, among HCV
patients.
AVI-4065 exhibited favorable safety and tolerability profiles in all patients
treated thus far, with no serious drug-related adverse events or tolerability
issues observed during treatment or follow-up. Based on the relatively long
elimination half-life of AVI-4065 and its mechanism of action, an irreversible
binding to the viral genome preventing viral protein synthesis, a slow, steady
liver loading with test drug was expected in patients with high levels of viral
target in the liver. This correspondingly predicts a slow, steady decrease in
viral load over the drug-loading period.
The PK analysis in patients treated thus far was consistent with this
prediction; there was a significant decrease in the concentration of drug in the
plasma (Cmax) in HCV patients compared with the normal subjects in the initial
phase of the trial. This was consistent with an increased elimination of drug
found in the urine, most likely bound to the virus in the HCV-infected patients.
In addition, there was a significant correlation between viral titer at day one
and the extent of reduction in Cmax, further supporting this mechanism of
elimination. These observations demonstrate a significant and direct
pharmacodynamic response to HCV infection.
Viral responses have been assessed in only a few patients out to the 28th day of
the study. During the 14 days of treatment, three of five patients evaluated had
an initial decrease in viral load, whereas two of five exhibited little initial
change in viral titer. The mean viral titers of all patients tested thus far
showed a slight decrease (0.30 log reduction) both during and after treatment,
with no rebound effect observed out to 28 days. These are very preliminary
results in a small number of patients, and active enrollment and evaluation is
ongoing, with formal results expected around the end of the year.
"Based on the PK and mechanism-of-action of our drug, we expected a slow, steady
accumulation of drug in the liver with a corresponding decrease in viral load,"
said Dr. Iversen. "The maximal tissue concentration of drug would be reached in
three to five half-lives, or approximately 33 to 55 days. This indicates that an
extension of treatment duration is required to reach maximum drug concentration
and reduction of viral load in the liver. These preliminary results are
consistent with that and very encouraging for ongoing drug development.
Extending the treatment period would be expected to further reduce viral load in
responding patients and may ultimately decrease viral load in those patients who
are not early responders."
"We are pleased to have shown early signs of an anti-HCV response in our first
human study," said Denis R. Burger, Ph.D., chief executive officer of AVI.
"Because our drug has a significant therapeutic window, we have several options
for modifying the therapeutic regimen to enhance the results. Our options
include increasing the duration of treatment, increasing the dose, enhancing the
delivery, fine-tuning the target, enhancing target affinity, and exploring
combinations of antisense agents, or combinations of antisense agents with other
drugs. We firmly believe that, after seeing initial trends, we can develop an
optimal, viable drug therapy for HCV."
The first phase of this study was completed in March 2006 and evaluated 31
healthy volunteers who received 14 consecutive days of treatment with AVI-4065
at three dosage levels. In the second phase of this clinical trial, patients
with HCV are stratified into two cohorts, one composed of patients who have not
received previous treatment and the other composed of patients who failed
conventional interferon and ribavarin treatment. In addition to efficacy as
measured by HCV virological responses to treatment with AVI-4065, the study will
continue to assess the safety, tolerability and pharmacokinetics of the
compound. Patients will also be monitored for four months following treatment to
assess the duration of the virological response to AVI-4065, and sequencing of
the viral genome will be performed to assess potential resistance.
HCV is a single-stranded RNA virus. Because HCV and other single-stranded RNA
viruses have relatively simple genetic structures, they are attractive targets
for AVI's NEUGENE antisense, which is designed to target conserved portions of
the viral genetic code that are not likely to mutate over time.
About Hepatitis C Infection
Chronic HCV infection causes an inflammation of the liver that can result in the
development of cirrhosis, liver cancer or liver failure. According to the World
Health Organization, approximately 170 million people worldwide are chronically
infected with HCV. It is the most common chronic blood-borne infection in the
developed world and the leading cause of liver transplants in the U.S. The
Centers for Disease Control estimates that approximately 3.9 million Americans
have been infected with HCV, of whom 2.7 million are chronically infected.
The Hepatitis Foundation International estimates that between 8,000 and 10,000
people die annually in the U.S. from HCV-related cirrhosis or liver cancer. The
current treatment for HCV, 24 to 48 weeks of therapy with pegylated interferon
alpha and ribavirin, is successful in less than half of the patients infected
with genotype 1 HCV, the most common form of the virus in the U.S. Furthermore,
this treatment has numerous side effects, some of them severe, which make it
difficult for nearly half of initially treated patients to tolerate the
recommended dosages and duration of treatment.
About AVI BioPharma
AVI BioPharma develops therapeutic products for the treatment of
life-threatening diseases using third-generation NEUGENE antisense drugs. AVI's
lead NEUGENE antisense compound is designed to target cell proliferation
disorders, including cardiovascular restenosis, cancer and polycystic kidney
disease. In addition to targeting specific genes in the body, AVI's antiviral
program uses NEUGENE antisense compounds to combat disease by targeting
single-stranded RNA viruses, including West Nile virus, hepatitis C virus,
dengue virus, Ebola virus and influenza A virus. AVI has introduced a
NEUGENE-based exon-skipping technology called ESPRIT therapy. More information
about AVI is available on the company's Web site at http://www.avibio.com.
"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995: The statements that are not historical facts contained in this release are
forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties, including, but
not limited to, the results of research and development efforts, the results of
preclinical and clinical testing, the effect of regulation by the FDA and other
agencies, the impact of competitive products, product development,
commercialization and technological difficulties, and other risks detailed in
the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
Contact AVI BioPharma, Inc. Michael Hubbard, 503-227-0554 hubbard@... or
Lippert/Heilshorn & Associates Inc. Investor Contact Jody Cain, 310-691-7100
jcain@... or Waggener Edstrom Worldwide Bioscience and Healthcare Practice
Jenny Moede, 503-443-7000 jmoede@...
http://www.pharmalive.com/News/index.cfm?articleid=339621&categoryid=40

Grateful Dead Tour... :-)
The Ever Evolving HepCHollow
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I'm not sure what the GD tour is either. I am not into the philosophies of
vegetarian. I have read that animal products are harder on the liver and since
i quit eating them i feel much better. My kids on the other hand enjoy meat and
junk food because I dont feel they should suffer because of me
Debbie

BTW...will I sound REALLY stupid if I ask what a GD tour is?
Love,
Nancy

Vegetarians eat vegetables...well, and some eat dairy products...and some
only certain dairy products...and some eat eggs...cause it's not like your
Killing the chicken to get the egg out so that's like...natural...and some
don't eat eggs...(same theory as not eating milk products that come out of
cows...or sometimes cows but not goats...and THEN some vegetarians eat
fish...cause fish is a cold blooded creature...others think that's not right
cause cold blooded creatures feel pain too (you really can hear some of
those suckers scream when you're getting that hook out of their mouth)...but
then again others don't eat fish or seafood just cause of the mercury
thing...(course there are those that say they can hear plant life scream too
but...I think there is medication for that) BUTvegetarians definitely do NOT
eat Meat...Well, at least BEEF (Usually, hardly ever)...and some people just
eat vegetables cause they think they are better for you (but then there's
that whole missing enzymes/amino acids debate that I can't EVEN get into
here)...and there are some people that just like vegetables...period.
Vegans, on the other hand, were a biotechnical life form in that first Star
Trek movie...I think.
Does that clear everything up? :-)
(P.S....Colleen, I have found that foods high in preservatives have kept me
very well preserved...(for an old broad :-) and that Red Dye No. 2 helps
keep those Auburn highlights. LOL!
(Oh and that Chocolate IS sometimes (too often actually of late!) better
than sex! :-)
Love,
Nancy

Thanks for the info Pam,
I am waiting on peg and i think its an outrage. I have been waiting for 3
months for treatment. It really saddens me that there are other options out
there and they werent even an option for me. Trust me i will be looking into
it.

National Viral Hepatitis Roundtable Launches Plan to Eliminate Viral Hepatitis
in the United States
Press Contact: Molli Conti
215-489-4900
molli@...
TACKLING THE ALPHABET OF A, B, C, D and E
Washington D.C. - May 10, 2006 - National Viral Hepatitis Roundtable (NVHR), a
coalition of over 100 organizations dedicated to the fight against viral
hepatitis, today launched from the steps of the Capitol its Plan to Eliminate
Viral Hepatitis together with Congressional leaders Heather Wilson (R-NM),
Charlie Dent (R-PA) and Mike Honda (D-CA).
Congresswoman Wilson is the lead sponsor of the Hepatitis C Epidemic Control and
Prevention Act (H.R.1290) and Congressmen Dent (R-PA) and Honda (D-CA) are the
lead sponsors of the Hepatitis B Act (H.R.4550).
Developed in response to escalating new infections and the terrible toll such
infections take on the infected individual as well as the nation's healthcare
system, NVHR's Plan promotes research and prevention, integration of public
health and clinical care practices, and improved health care for infected
persons as methods for eliminating viral hepatitis from the American landscape.
"Hepatitis organizations across the country have joined to form a single voice,
and that voice says, 'We can eliminate viral hepatitis in America.' Two years of
dedicated work by hundreds of individuals representing millions of infected
people has culminated in a comprehensive strategy that, when followed, will stop
viral hepatitis in this country," said NVHR Chair Molli Conti. "NVHR's Plan
gives the U.S. Congress and the States a clear, unifying roadmap for conquering
these diseases-everything from how to build capacity and improve services to
expanding access to treatment, funding research and increasing disease
prevention outreach."
NVHR's Plan is a multipronged approach to the complex challenge of defeating
five different diseases. Within the Plan are four overarching goals with
numerous action steps for each goal. Across the country, in every state, members
of the NVHR are today taking the Plan and meeting with stakeholders and policy
leaders to gain commitments of cooperation for the elimination of viral
hepatitis.
About NVHR
The National Viral Hepatitis Roundtable is dedicated to developing, implementing
and maintaining a national strategy to eliminate viral hepatitis in the United
States. NVHR's National Plan to Eliminate Viral Hepatitis is available at
www.nvhr.org.
http://www.liverfoundation.org/db/pressrelease/67

hey there debbie........ i am glad to hear that :-) you know every time i
see your addy it reminds me that i want to chatter about all i have learned
this week......... are you really waiting on peg or have you started
treatment?? I found out at my Hep C meeting that there are TWO treatments
available right now and one that will be available in October or November.
And the other two have better stats than the Schering product. I went to a
interview about 5 days ago with the Roche people about how side effects
affected me...........they should have their Pegasys available and FDA
approved around the end of October. Fewer sides and higher clearance stats.
Then I found out that the Infergen that I originally wanted to take back in
1998 which is superior to Scherings Intron was sold by Amgen to a company
called Intermune
http://www.intermune.com/index.html
They got sidetracked telling the docs about Epogen (Procrit) and Interferon
gamma and kind of let the interferon alpha for Hep C *lapse* in that since
they weren't reminding the docs about it the docs weren't writing Rx's.
(Intermune bought Amgen)Well it has always been FDA approved and anyone can
get a script for it today and one for Riba and not have to be waiting on
Schering. Plus from the stats I have read, it also has fewer side effects
and a higher clearance rate. Schering has been so busy convincing everyone
(especially the docs) that they are the only product that most patients
aren't even aware that there is another choice. So i wanted to pop on this
list for a sec and mention that to everyone so that if you are ready to do
treatment and are on a waiting list you might want to consider and talk to
your doc about an Rx for Infergen instead of PegIntron. They hope to have a
pegylated form out soon but meanwhile if combined with Ribaviran the stats
are better than PegIntron. Hope everyone followed that LOL A nurse
practioner came to my Hep C group and talked to us about it tonight.
Apparently Intermune is by passing the docs and going to the NP's who are
going to the support groups to help get the word out and remind people that
there ARE choices after all............. anyway, i guess this ran long
enough for one morning.......... i am brain dead anyway, have been up all
night, and need to go to sleep now........... hope most of you hit the
delete key before you got this far ROFLOL Take care of yourselves and
READ and EDUCATE and be aware of CHOICES. Everyone doesn't have to jump
into bed with Schering in order to be treated. There are better things out
there...........RESEARCH, talk to your docs, and then make GOOD choices for
yourselves :-) night all!!!
Peace and Love,
Pam
Dogs come when they're called. Cats take a message and get back to you. --
Missy Dizick

MEDICAL & BUSINESS ETHICS & GORILLAS
By Tom Braun, RPh.
In my business career as a pharmaceutical buyer and later as a Drug Marketing
executive, I had nothing but the highest respect for Merck. They had an image of
impeccable business and medical ethics and they ran their own show. This image
was confirmed by trade surveys year after year. Somewhere along the way, they
started to loose focus on healthcare and the focus shifted to the bottom line.
When Clinton was running for the presidency, he often showed up in the company
of Merck. This week, Arianna Huffington wrote a biting article about Merck's
fall from grace titled "You want a Moral Issue? How about drugs that don't
kill". The theme is that the Democrats should come together and open the
medicine chest and clean up the hidden mess that is inside.
The problem is that the Democratic Party has long shared in the money dole from
the pharmaceutical manufacturers. It's somewhere around a 60-40 split, with the
Republicans getting the bigger piece of the pumpkin pie. Big Pharma has always
hedged their bets and it doesn't matter who is running this country because they
have seduced most of the Congressman with money and junkets and the like.
Phil Crane from Illinois, one of Big Pharma's champions was not re-elected this
fall. Abbott Laboratories in his former district has paid over $100 million
dollars in fines for not following Good Manufacturing Practices. Total fines and
judgments have been over $1,000,000,000 in the last five years for Abbott, the
Champion fine payer. Another seven Pharmaceutical manufacturers accounted for an
additional $1 billion-plus dollars in fines and penalties paid for fraudulent
business practices over the last five years. The only way you recoup these
losses is to raise your prices.
A 300-pound Gorilla has been let out of the cage called Vioxx. There is another
Gorilla rocking his cage called Statin. Back in the early 1980's, time release
Niacin (which is a vitamin) was beginning to gain acceptance by the physicians
as a way to control high cholesterol. It worked. Was not expensive and if you
didn't overdose on it, you were in great shape. Along comes a 10 patient study
from the St. Louis VA hospital that claimed that Niacin caused liver damage. No
one confirmed that the liver of these 10 VA patients was normal before the study
began. Mysteriously, this small study got nation wide press and Niacin was
discredited.
Within 90 days of the nationwide negative publicity on Niacin, the first
prescription statin drug was marketed by none other than Merck. All those who
were worried about their cholesterol levels were saved. The drug was called
Mevacor. Would anyone suggest that Merck primed the pump for their new drug by
discrediting Niacin? This was the first of a long line of cholesterol lowering
drugs called Statins.
Today, the most popular ones are Merck's Mevacor and Pfizer's Lipitor. Baycol
from Bayer was removed from the market due to its deadly side effects. Class
Action law suits continue to this day. Crestor is under attack for it's high
side effect profile and may be the next drug to be removed from the market. In
the meantime, Statin drugs produce about $20 billion dollars in sales for the
manufacturers and everyday these drugs remain on the market they are a power
house of profit for them.
BAND-AID RESPONSE?
It still is an open question today that high cholesterol causes heart disease.
Is it the cause or an effect? In some medical groups, the theory is that
inflammation of the artery walls which is caused by unknown pathogens &/or
immune system responses causes the body to send out cholesterol to repair the
weakening wall of the artery. More of a Band-Aid response rather than a cause.
This is why statin drugs that suppress the liver's cholesterol production is
prescribed. All the consumer ads for these Statin drugs warn that there is a
danger of liver damage. Sound Familiar?
In the process of creating the first statin drug, Merck discovered that an
essential enzyme called Co Enzyme Q 10 is reduced in the body if you take a
statin drug that suppresses your cholesterol. Every cell in your body requires
Co Enzyme Q 10 as well as cholesterol, but medical researchers pushed on with
the concept that high cholesterol is bad for you and has ignored the
consequences of too little cholesterol or Q 10 in the body. Over the years the
manufacturers have convinced the physicians that lower and lower values of
cholesterol should be the norm. Pfizer has been promoting that 150 is the max.
Profit motives surpass realistic medical guidelines.
In 1990, Merck received a patent for the combination drug of lovastatin and Co
Enzyme Q 10. (Patent#'s 4929437 & 4933165). They have never marketed this
combination drug and today, 14 years later, the NIH, FDA or no other Medical
Institution has demanded that the way Statins are prescribed and patients are
treated has to be changed to include the supplement Co Enzyme Q 10.
I would have thought that if they were not going to market this combination of
drug, at least they would have told the prescribing physicians that a Q 10
supplement should be taken along with the statin drug. So much for patient
concerns and medical ethics.
Medical Ethics has been relegated to the rear of the classroom and in many cases
has never left academia. How else can you explain the lack of outcry from
physicians for being convinced to prescribe a class of drugs that do harm not
only to the liver but also the heart that requires adequate Co Enzyme Q 10 to
function properly.
When this 1000-pound Gorilla called Statin comes out of his cage and his
rampaging is heard, then maybe the Democrats and the Republicans will learn how
to spell the word "Bipartisanship".
US Healthcare (really Sickcare) ranks 37th in the World and costs (almost 15%
GDP) the majority of the citizens twice what it does in the other countries that
deliver better healthcare to their citizens. There are 45 million Americans who
can't afford healthcare...period. I can't understand why the physicians of this
country don't demand complete and honest medical information and take back their
profession from special interests. The way it is going it, the practice of
medicine is regressing and becoming more of an art form than a science.
Restoring Medical & Business Ethics to the Pharmaceutical Arena would go along
way in improving Healthcare in the US and reducing costs. It's going to take a
healthcare crisis of an enormous magnitude to get any changes to take place.
Bush is proposing Selfcare as the solution, which is what 45 million Americans
have to practice as it is.
Let's not stop the medical carpetbaggers; it may be bad for politics.
Tom Braun RPh
Retired but not senile yet!
Copyright © 2004 Thomas Braun
T. Braun, Pharmacist, Buyer, Marketing Executive for a Major Drug Chain. Active
for over 45 years in Pharmacy.
Legal Stuff: Disclaimer - This document is informational in nature. Medical
advice should be secured through your physician.
http://www.suddenlysenior.com/braunethics.html

hey again debbie.......... i moved here with 4 cats and he had one..........
it has taken quite awhile for them to *blend* LOL We have even had to
put one on prozac to get him to stop spraying. I just lost one to cancer
last month after *superhuman* efforts to keep her alive and do chemo. I
could not have done it without him! So I maintain that sometimes men are
very useful LOL :-) and men that love cats are also very hard to come
by!!
Peace and Love,
Pam
Dogs come when they're called. Cats take a message and get back to you. --
Missy Dizick

Pam you are truly lucky to have found a GOOD man. They just seem hard to
find and even harder when kids are involved.
Debbie

Hi Tom,
I am from Novi and i really wanted to go to the picnic but my brain fog got
the best of me and i arrived a day to late. Have a great time in Canada and
thanks for the offer
Debbie

Haemophiliac joins Clinton demo
A man from Sussex who was infected with HIV and Hepatitis C while being treated
for a blood disorder is taking part in a protest in front of Bill Clinton.
The man, a haemophiliac, was treated with infected clotting agents in the 1970s
when many of the blood products used came from the United States.
The former President was governor of Arkansas, where haemophiliacs say blood was
collected from high-risk prisoners.
The Department of Health says the UK government acted in good faith.
The Sussex protester, who does not want to be named, received treatment with
Factor 8 which was intended to save his life.
But he was diagnosed with HIV and Hepatitis C at 14.
Donors screened
"I needed Factor 8 because I was in pain, but in being given that treatment I
was given a death sentence," he said.
He travelled to Glasgow, where Mr Clinton is addressing 800 business people, to
join Wednesday's protest.
Today, blood donors are screened so that blood is no longer taken from high-risk
groups such as drug users.
But the affected haemophiliacs are calling for a public inquiry into how they
came to be infected.
The Department of Health said: "We are aware that during the 1970s and 80s blood
products were sourced from prisoners in the US.
"An ex-gratia payment is available to every person who was alive on 29 August
2003 and whose Hepatitis C infection was due to NHS treatment with blood or
blood products received before September 1991.
"The Government of the day acted in good faith, relying on the technology
available at that time, and therefore we do not feel a public inquiry would
provide any real benefit to those affected."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4758667.stm

Governor inks tattoo bill into law
OKLAHOMA CITY Tattooing will be legal in Oklahoma as of November first under a
bill signed into law today by Governor Henry.
The bill won final legislative approval last week and makes Oklahoma the last
state to legalize the practice.
Public health officials have recently supported efforts to legalize tattooing in
an effort to regulate it and reduce the chance of spreading H-I-V and hepatitis.
The state Health Department says between 2000 and 2003 there was a 78 percent
increase in new hepatitis C infections and 34 percent of the people infected
reported having a tattoo.
The bill signed into law prohibits tattooing on anyone younger than 18.
http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=4887030

Trust me Collen that thought has crossed my mind. I have been divorced 10
years and most have been without a man. I have 2 boys, 2 cats, and 2 ferrets
how much more love do i need, lol.

hey there colleen........ sometimes they ARE more trouble than they are
worth......... but i have been divorced since 1979 and haven't had a *live
in* to speak of until the past december and I certainly am adjusting LOL
There ARE some great things they can do other than changing the light bulbs
:-) ROFLOL So now i have all my cats and a man and life is pretty good
:-)
Peace and Love,
Pam
Dogs come when they're called. Cats take a message and get back to you. --
Missy Dizick

hey robin........ i can't do treatment........ allergic to
interferon.......... here is a link i ran across on Raynauds Syndrome
http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-128.shtml
All I know is that my hands are perpetually reddish and puffy and have been
that way for almost 20 years now :-( They don't hurt or anything......
they just look ugly and odd........I am sorry to hear that you did not clear
the virus........ that happens to so many........ Roche's Pegasys will be
FDA approved by October or November and Intermune's Infergen (formerly by
Amgen) is still on the market and FDA approved so you might want to ask your
doc about it..........i just learned this tonight and am going to do a post
about it a little later :-) take care!
Peace and Love,
Pam
Dogs come when they're called. Cats take a message and get back to you. --
Missy Dizick

Hi Debbie and Welcome
I'm Tom aka TC in Warren, Michigan. If your about to start treatment
you need someone to help you when you need it not vice versa. What
part of Michigan are you from? We had a pretty good Michigan hepfest
and picnic here just a couple of weeks back.
I am on my way to Canada tomorrow and I will be going on Digest
mail, so I hope I don't miss any posts, even though I will be online
in Canada.later

As the Number of Live Organ Donors Increases, Medicine Needs To Know More
About What Happens to Them After Surgery
Thank You and Goodbye
As the Number of Live Organ Donors Increases, Medicine Needs To Know More
About What Happens to Them After Surgery
By Martha McNeil Hamilton
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, August 20, 2002; Page HE01
I wouldn't say that Georgetown University Hospital lost interest in me the
minute I rolled out the door in a wheelchair after donating a kidney last
November. After all, I was scheduled for the regular postoperative visit for
two weeks later. And, in fact, when I called a few weeks later with what I
feared might be complications, the staff quickly scheduled me in for another
visit.
But the truth is there is little systematic long-term tracking of living
donors of kidneys and other organs, a fact that's eliciting concern in the
medical establishment throughout the country as the number of living donors
grows. According to the United Network for Organ Sharing, there were 6,509
living organ donors in the United States in 2001, up from 2,423 in 1991.
Until recently, most donations came from people who had arranged to donate
their organs upon their death. But as surgeons have mastered better
procedures for transplanting organs (or a portion of an organ, in the case
of livers and lungs), the number of living donors has grown. Last year, for
the first time, there were more living benefactors than dead ones providing
kidneys for transplant -- although those who donated in death kept the edge
in the total number of kidneys supplied, since they don't need to keep one
for their own use.
The recent case in New York of Mike Hurewitz, who donated part of his liver
to his brother but died soon after the surgery, also helped highlight the
need for more information about the complications of organ donation. The
National Institutes of Health is now contracting for a five-year study of
liver donors. And earlier this year Sen. Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), a former
transplant surgeon, and Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) introduced a bill
designed to promote organ donation. Among other things, the measure would
authorize the Institute of Medicine to report on longer-term effects
associated with living donation and establish a National Living Donor
Registry.
Show Me the Money
While the interest in keeping track of donors is growing, finding the money
to do so may be a barrier.
When I donated my kidney to my colleague Warren Brown, the costs of my
screening, surgery and hospitalization -- more than $70,000 -- were taken
care of by Warren's Medicare coverage. Medicare began covering most costs of
dialysis and kidney transplants in the early 1970s. Since transplants cost
less than dialysis and yield better long-term outcomes for patients, kidney
transplants save taxpayer dollars.
But tax dollars only go so far: They cover the cost of the donor's follow-up
visit with the surgeons to make sure the incisions are healing well and
without complications.
As for other postoperative expenses, kidney donors are on their own (or on
their own insurance). For instance, the day I left the hospital I was
charged for the pain relievers I was to take home with me because Medicare
doesn't cover medication taken orally. And the follow-up visit to my own
doctor to make sure my electrolytes and other measures of health were what
they should be -- again, on my own.
Transplant centers are supposed to follow the health of donors for a year,
but centers interpret that requirement in different ways; in many cases they
merely report problems if they hear about them. Georgetown doesn't send
follow-up questionnaires to kidney donors, although I did get a nice
"Certificate of Appreciation."
Several recent gatherings, including a May meeting sponsored by the
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) advisory committee on organ
transplantation, have examined the issues related to living donors,
including how to make sure there is no coercion involved in the decision to
donate and making sure donors have a clear view of what they are being asked
to do.
"The sheer numbers are now growing to the point where the issue is going to
get on people's radar screens," said an HHS official who agreed to talk
about the donor-tracking issue only on background.
"The ongoing costs for just the medical follow-up of those people is not
insignificant. Would you limit it to liver donors?" he asked, noting that
the surgical methods involved in liver donations are evolving so rapidly
that there may be more unknowns there.
Kidney donations are more numerous, but there is a long track record and a
more uniform approach to those operations, he said. "How do you pay for
that? Are we going to get something worthwhile for the costs? And what is
'long-term'? In perpetuity?"
Donor Support
One organization that is promoting better tracking for donors is the
South-Eastern Organ Procurement Foundation (SEOPF) in Richmond, which
operates the Living Organ Donor Network. So far only four transplant centers
(out of 264 programs nationwide) have signed on to provide financing for
this voluntary registry, which got underway in October 2000.
The network not only tracks what happens to donors, it also provides each
donor with $250,000 in life, disability and medical insurance for
complications arising from the donation. The insurance is provided through
AIG Insurance Company, which also works with the National Marrow Donor
Program.
Providing insurance is intended to eliminate what may be a disincentive for
prospective donors with fewer financial resources to offer their organs,
said Thomas A. Armata, executive director of the SEOPF, a clearinghouse for
billing for organ transplants that involve more than one hospital.
So far the registry is tracking only 84 kidney donors, but its data suggest
one reason why transplant centers may be unaware of complications: 34
percent of the donors came from from states other than those where the
operations took place; two of them came from outside the United States.
The complications from kidney donation, for the most part, aren't very
serious or widespread, but they include hernias, lingering pain from the
incision and, rarely, liver damage.
The studies that have tracked donors at single centers also suggest that the
mortality rate is low -- approximately 1 in 10,000, according to Thomas
McCune, medical director of renal transplants at Norfolk General Hospital
and a former president of SEOPF. That is comparable to the risk of
undergoing general anesthesia for any procedure. But, because the data are
spotty, "we don't really know what the long-term complications are of organ
donation," he said.
As a donor, I was most interested in data from the registry about how
quickly people were able to go back to work after the surgery. That is the
type of information that can be important to someone deciding whether he or
she can afford to donate an organ or planning to undergo that surgery --
especially for the self-employed or workers short on sick leave.
Before the surgery, my transplant coordinator told me that folks usually go
back to work in about two weeks. I figured that, since I was in good health
and good shape, I should be able to do the same.
Fortunately, Marc Rosenberg, an advertising manager at The Washington Post
who had donated a kidney to his brother, called me with advice about what to
expect based on his experience. As a result, I revised my expectations. I
went back to work in just under a month, and initially I found myself
getting fatigued more easily than before.
The living donor registry found that only 25 percent of the donors had
anticipated that it would take them more than 31 days to return to work.
In fact, 60 percent of the donors needed a month or more. Absent that kind
of information, a donor -- especially one who is at all competitive -- might
worry if it takes him or her longer to return to work than a coordinator had
predicted. That's the kind of extra pain kidney donors don't need.
As for me, if a survey had asked, I'm in great shape. If anything, I feel
better than before the surgery, with no complications.
But thanks for asking.
Martha McNeil Hamilton and Warren Brown described their experiences as organ
donor and organ transplant recipient in Health section articles last
December.
© 2002 The Washington Post Company

Mass. Senate Delays Vote On Bill That Would Allow Nonprescription Sale Of
Hypodermic Needles
The Massachusetts Senate on Thursday postponed a vote on bill S 1312 that would
authorize the nonprescription sale of syringes to people age 18 and older to
curb the spread of HIV/AIDS, hepatitis C and other bloodborne diseases, after
Senate Minority Leader Brian Lees (R) objected to the legislation, the Boston
Globe reports (Ebbert, Boston Globe, 5/5). The bill is sponsored by Sen. Robert
O'Leary. The state House in November 2005 voted to approve similar legislation
(H 4176) that would require pharmacists dispensing the needles to provide
consumers with a brochure created by the state Department of Public Health. The
brochure includes information about the proper use and disposal of syringes and
needles, the risk of contracting bloodborne diseases through such devices and
the state's toll-free number for HIV/AIDS and hepatitis C information (Kaiser
Daily HIV/AIDS Report, 5/2). Lees' objection will delay a vote on the bill for
at least a week and possibly up to several weeks because the Legislature is
about to consider the state budget. Lees objected to the measure on procedural
grounds, saying it would help illicit drug users break the law. He said that he
would suggest amendments to the bill when it returns to the agenda (Boston
Globe, 5/5). The state health department supports the measure. About 39% of HIV
cases in Massachusetts are linked to injection drug use (Kaiser Daily HIV/AIDS
Report, 5/2).
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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=42998&nfid=rssfeeds

Hey, I haven't had a man in my life for over 7 years.
It's no big deal. I don't even miss having one. I
get along just fine with just me and my 13-year-old
son. I also have two other grown sons and a wonderful
daughter-in-law. And as soon as I move, I'll buy a
dog to love me. Having a man in your life and in your
home is often more trouble than it's worth. No
reflection on the men who may be on this list, of
course.
Colleen

Dating with your Hepatitis friends in your city, and you will never
feel
alone!! Just check it out !! http://www.positivesingles.com

he's going through the i don't understand stage but I am standing firm with
my decision
thanks again for the encouragement
Debbie

Thanks glo,
signed up earlier today
Debbie

Debbie, sorry you had a bad experience but this guy sounds like an obvious
loser...better luck next time maybe some day I will be able to cook you a fine
meal... all salt free of course lol, Michael

Michael,
As long as we can make it vegan i would be delighted, lol.
Debbie

Roche Issues Guide to Avoid Fake Tamiflu
BASEL, Switzerland_Swiss pharmaceuticals company Roche Holding AG said Monday it
has issued guidelines for consumers on how to avoid counterfeit versions of its
anti-influenza drug Tamiflu.
The new guidelines give specific information on how customers can avoid buying
fake Tamiflu, identify the genuine product and how to act if they suspect they
are being sold counterfeit medicine.
Buyers should be careful when buying on the Internet and be wary of any offers
to sell medicine without a valid prescription, Roche said in a statement. They
should also buy only from a licensed pharmacy.
Genuine Tamiflu comes in a white cardboard box with a single blister package of
10 capsules, Roche said. Each capsule is a distinctive yellow and light gray
color and is printed with the words "Roche 75mg."
Until a vaccine becomes available, Tamiflu is seen as the most effective medical
defense against a flu pandemic that could result if the virus causing the
current international outbreak of bird flu changes into a virulent human
influenza strain.
"Consumers worldwide can be assured that Roche is doing everything possible to
protect the integrity of Tamiflu, and indeed all its products," said George
Abercrombie, president and chief executive of Hoffmann-La Roche Inc., Roche's
U.S. subsidiary.
___
On the Net:
Further details of Tamiflu guidelines: http://www.tamiflu.com
http://www.therapeuticsdaily.com/news/article.cfm?contentvalue=895645&contenttyp\
e=sentryarticle&channelID=31

Hi All,
Garlic pills have worked for me in the past. I'm also one of those that
mosquitoes seem to love. I spent some time in a remote village on the edge of a
Rain Forest in Mexico and was petrified I'd get dengue fever or malaria from the
skeeters. I took garlic pills for a month before I left and for the whole time
I was there - and it worked like magic!

Happy birthday Amanda - it isn't often that you get to turn 25 (or
so) with a machete in one hand and a chanelling sybil watching your
every move- kepp the chains saw handy and have a great one!!!!
Willie

Ok, Everybody...all together now!
Happy Birthday to You, You're living in a Zoo, You smell like....two-cycle
engine oil, and you look...all Green (Plus)! ROTFLMAO
(For those who might Not know yet, Amandadanna's (Samraniam) travel trailer
has been parked in my overgrown "Tropical Freaking Paradise" here for a bit
and she has weedwacked pratically the Whole Thing down...to a reasonable
level (at least I don't have to worry about snakes biting me on the butt
walking thru ass-high grass here anymore thanks to MY HERO...Machete
Madwoman!) LOLOLOLOL
(Mmmmm, I was just gonna tell everybody how old she is today until I
remembered she's also borrowed my sis's chainsaw...So...let's just say she's
a Lot younger than I am...and Looks it Too! :-)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GF!
Love,
Nancy
(Now I gotta get off the computer long enough for her to read ya'll's posts
to her...ta ta! :-)

Ok, Gloria, I just got your first email to this group
and it is you!!! Great to see a friend on here.
I'm at work and wishing I was home playing instead.
heeheehee
I got all my HepFest pictures back and have a couple
of good ones of you, especially the one where only
your head is sticking out in the hottub!!!
love ya too!!!
Colleen

Hi Debbie (another Debbie from Michigan! :-)
It was the hardest thing to do...to admit to myself that my lover and I were
both in love with the same person...Him. And, even harder to keep it broken
off for good after I bought my own house and moved out (after he got over
his two month temper tantrum...during which he kicked in the side of my
brand new truck in a parking lot)...Then he started driving by my house and
giving and sending me cards every day...offering to fix screens and trim
trees and being very nice..."buddy buddy" to my sons (finally!) and pleading
with me constantly to get back together again. I'm a natural softee (Shhhh!
:-)...AND, I still love him...as a person...which made it so much more