Re:[HepCingles2] New Member from Utah

2008-05-31 14:50:14

Cherie welcome from Ogden Ut. Ive never been there but Ive been to the
salt flats and my van blew a tire in Salt Lake! Hiiii from Mykal in Arkansas (
again I think ) one thing that is kewl about this site is you can say anything
and explain it away as Hepper brain! LOL wait! it is a hepperbrain site. Im
sayin HI to everybody else too Im in Norfolk Va. on vacation. Pretty cool here
if it wasnt for the republican mentality. UT OH there I go again. we have
depleted ranks here, Dana's broken down, laura is....well Im not sure, our
fearless leader is on leave, our resident Goddess is????? Jerry died UT OH Jerry
who? ....Ken Kesey for president!!!! LOL Peace...out....Houston we have a
problem...Carl Sagan and Tim Leary need clearance for landing on runway
25......25???????? Hmmmm

New Member from Utah

2008-05-31 11:57:38

Hi everyone!
I am from Ogden Utah which is about 60 miles from Salt Lake City.
Thank you for all the welcomes.I hope to get to know all of
you.Thanks for the response.It really lifts a person mentally to have
others care enough to say hello we are here.
I would love to e-mail with any of you.Kind of been down and lonely.
You all know what I mean I know.
Have a great evening.
Smiles,
Cherie

www.rxlist.com

2008-05-31 00:48:54

the world wide list for all drugs and stuff..........
http://www.rxlist.com/

Re: Cardiac cath is over with somewhat good news! :-)

2008-05-30 23:07:45

Good news somewhat Pam:) I said a prayer for you and still will
continue too. I hope that they can get the meds fixed for ya, my
sister had 70 percent blockage, but didnt attend to it well, as I
know it and developed diabetes in her fourties and passed away age
47 from so many blockages, and I think a screw up at the er when she
was being treated for the angioplasty.:( but sounds like in your
case you have a good handle on whats going on, and what to do, keep
us posted how your doing and as always I will keep you in my
thoughts and prayers:) hugs bunches to you.
ps. my sister quit smoking age 37 and that didnt stop her problems,
as she had a genetic predisposition to this whole thing, and her dad
was different father than mine and he had many heart probs thru
life. but the the is...to be on top of those docs and let them know
how you feel about the meds? what stage and grade are you btw? dont
know if you ever said? would variciose veins be an issue or are you
staged out further?
well just keep well relaxed and dont overdo yourself. take care of u
first and all will go well, this is a very important time for you to
slow down, if you can????:( I know its tuff to but may need to knock
a bit of stress out for the time being? one thing I do know is both
my brothers have massive heart probs, one never smoked in his life,
and other did and quit. so they are ages 56 and 58 and still up and
running, after various surgeries they have found good surgeons, and
hopefully will be on this earth a quite bit longer too:) as Iam sure
you will, hugs and keep smiling keep the faith, and just remember we
all love ya here:) Love ya, barb

Re: New Member

2008-05-30 21:03:07

Hi Cherie and Welcome
I'm Tom aka TC in Michigan.

Re: [HepCingles2] New Member Hello Cherie/Larry

2008-05-30 15:10:20

Hi
And a warm welcome to you, I am pretty new to this group as well but their is
a lot of useful information here, as well as a bunch of real nice folks. You
wouldn't by any chance be from Chicago would you?
Happy New Year
Larry

Nancy & Nancy

2008-05-30 04:19:52

Ok Mykal
Please get your hands out of where ever they are. My God this is
Christmas Man. Have you no decency!lol

test

2008-05-30 02:31:01

this is a test, in the event of a real event you will be notified
maybe!

Re: Merry Christmas

2008-05-29 21:24:03

Hi David
100 days that is Execellent David, keep up the good work and Merry
christmas and Happy New Year.

Nancy & Nancy

2008-05-29 10:52:09

But then we return to the age old question what about two hands in Nancys
bush???? M-M-M-M-M-M-Mykal Better than any bird I ever heard of GAWD what
IS this thingy in my........Happy Holidays to all of you

Merry Christmas

2008-05-29 03:24:11

To all,
A Merry Christmas to you all,looking forward in connecting with you
and sharing what we have going on with HCV in our life's.I have 100
days clean-n-sober today,YEA,Thank You God.Well busy day today,talk
to you later.
David

Re: My Mom/Sharon

2008-05-28 19:39:20

HI Sharon
I guess you have your hands full too! Your Family and friends are in
my Prayers.
I Wish You, Family, Friends, and all on this list a Healthy and
Happy Holidays.

Re: My Mom

2008-05-28 16:08:31

Hang on tight TC,
With a Mom dealing with the grim reaper this holiday, I can totally
relate! That d**n cancer dragon! Take it all in, T.C.! But I'd say
you know that! We are on our second round with the cancer and it
seems to be winning. MRI scheduled in case it's a brain tumor that
is making my Mom act the way she is. My best friend is battling
cancer as well, I moved her in with me. But she is a fighter and
being %100 disabled (8 nuerosurgeries later) she doesn't back down so
she is doing great!
Family and friends throughout the holiday for all,
Sharon

Re: [HepCingles2] My Mom

2008-05-28 13:58:29

TC,
You are too damn tough for the Grim Reaper. You scared him away. :)
My thoughts and prayers for your mother and you on this Christmas Eve.

Nancy & Nancy

2008-05-28 08:47:26

think the expression a Nancy in the hand is better than two in the bush, but
two Nancys in the bush sounds like a lot of fun.
John

STONES RULE!!!!!

2008-05-27 23:17:40

After 40 years, they still ROCK!!!!!
**hugs**
Alfie
******
Alfie Wace
678-234-0832
http://www.atlantabluesky.com
(simply the best music anywhere on the planet!)
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience,
but spiritual beings having a human experience."
"We must be the change we want to see in the world." -Gandhi
"We ARE the world!" - Various Artists
"...as you did for one of the least of these my brethren, you
did it for me" Matt 25: 31-40
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.0/249 - Release Date: 2/2/2006

Re: Nancy & Nancy

2008-05-27 21:32:58

Well I guess two Nancy's are better than one!lol

Merry Christmas to Everyone!...to you, too, S. !

2008-05-27 15:35:05

Mykal Honey (Mr. "Sane One" HA! :-), I believe TC meant THAT Nancy.
(I know...the fog gets thick around here sometimes. :-)
Love Ya,
The OTHER Nancy :-)
Dance as if no one is watching, Sing as if no one is listening and Live
every day as if it were your last.

My Mom

2008-05-27 11:51:26

Hi all
Anyway Mom go's Jan 2 for CT scan and bone scan and blood tests to
see if the cancer has spread. Jan 3 we talk to oncologist again and
will know probably then for sure if it is just a matter of time or
whatever. Mom and I are doing well. A lot of things she can't do but
still has been in good spirits most of the time. Want to make this
Christmas Special, we have many Angels around the house, didn't know
we had so many, but need all we can get. Family and Friends bring
dinner,chocolates,Zuchinini bread,24 Pink Roses, flowers, gifts, Hugs
and Love and it's not even Christmas yet.
I only hope I can handle the hard times which I am sure will come.
Let the Dog outside last night and thought I saw the shadow of the
Grim Reaper, so I keep the doors locked tight and plan to keep that
guy away, he will have to get through me first.

Merry Christmas Johnny O!

2008-05-27 05:00:41

Thanks Johnny O!

Give Me The Gift Of Love...............

2008-05-26 18:43:06

Pam keeps askin for another song....................
The Gift of Love sung by Bette Middler
written by Billy Steinberg, Tom Kelly, and Suzanne Hoffs
You ask me what I want, you ask me what I need,
Its nothing you can buy, my heart's not ruled by greed.
I dont love a diamond......diamonds you see through,
I want you to hold me ....I want you to be true.
Give me the gift of love......look me in the eyes,
Say Im the one you're dreamin of,
That'd be the best surprise.
Give me the gift of your sweet love,
in the light of the day,In the dark of night.
Like the colors of the sun, the feelings in your heart,
It's all I want from you, and when the sky is dark,
I ll have you beside me, who could ask for more?
I ll just wear a smile, when you walk in the door.....
Give me the gift of love, look me in the eyes,
Say I'm the one you're dreamin of.
That'd be the best surprise.
Give me the gift of your sweet love,
In the light of the day...In the dark of the night.
:) johnnyo

Merry Christmas to Everyone!...to you, too, S. !

2008-05-26 12:18:09

Whoa TC you never talked to Nancy before? she is awesome dude Merry
Christmas..............

Re: Merry Christmas to Everyone!...to you, too, S. !

2008-05-26 09:45:02

-HI Nancy
I don't know if I have talked to you before, but I wish a Merry
Christmas to you to.

Re: [HepCingles2] Merry Christmas to Everyone!...to you, too, S. !

2008-05-25 18:11:20

Merry Christmas, Sharon................................. johnny o
In a message dated 12/20/2002 3:08:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
butterfliikysses@... writes:

Re: [HepCingles2] Hi :-)

2008-05-25 16:27:19

Hi Pam,
Sorry to hear your father is not doing so well. You and your family are in
my prayers.
hugs, John O

Re: [HepCingles2]

2008-05-25 12:09:52

Hello
Had blood work done came back as high level , so what does this mean ? Is it as
the same as a high stage ?
I know that I can start treatments in early January .
Please reply
Thank You
Mark

HepQuest Your Source for Hepatitis Information on the Web

2008-05-25 05:33:18

http://www.hepquest.com/

Management of Hepatitis C: 2002

2008-05-25 02:17:44

You can access these "Management of Hepatitis C: 2002" PDF files at:
http://hepcvets.com/info/2002/dec/toc.html
The articles are:
Alcohol Use and Hepatitis C
Role Of Liver Biopsy In Management
Of Chronic Hepatitis C: A Systematic Review
The Burden Of Hepatitis C In The United States
Children With Hepatitis C
Course And Outcome Of Hepatitis C
Fibrosis And Disease Progression In Hepatitis C
Future Therapy Of Hepatitis C
Hepatitis C & Human Immunodeficiency Virus Infection
Prevention And Treatment Of Hepatitis C In Injection Drug Users
Hepatocellular Carcinoma & Hepatitis C In The United States
Introduction To Therapy Of Hepatitis C
Noninvasive Monitoring Of Patients With Chronic Hepatitis C
Monitoring Of Viral Levels During Therapy Of Hepatitis C
Maternal-Infant Transmission Of Hepatitis C Virus Infection
Natural History Of Chronic Hepatitis C
Optimal Therapy Of Hepatitis C
Prevention Of Spread Of Hepatitis C
Retreatment Of Patients With Chronic Hepatitis C
The Role Of Liver Biopsy In Chronic Hepatitis C
Screening Tests For Hepatocellular Carcinoma In Patients With Chronic Hepatitis
C: A Systematic Review
Sexual Activity As A Risk Factor For Hepatitis C
Side Effects Of Therapy Of Hepatitis C And Their Management
Therapy Of Acute Hepatitis C
Treatment Of Patients With Hepatitis C And Cirrhosis
Treatment Of Patients With Hepatitis C & Normal Serum Aminotransferase Levels
Treatment Of Chronic Hepatitis C: A Systematic Review
Understudied Populations With Hepatitis C
Use & Interpretation Of Virological Tests For Hepatitis C
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

Roche's website

2008-05-24 20:03:36

http://www.hepquest.com
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Hi :-)

2008-05-24 16:44:00

Hi everyone! Please excuse the cross posting for those of you that are on more
than one of my lists. I am sending out an email to let you all know that I have
reset ALL my groups (including the ones I moderate) to no email until closer to
the first of the year. My dad has been in the hospital with interstitial lung
disease problems (idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis) and went home on oxygen a few
days ago. I had no real intentions of going home for Christmas but he got a
call from his internist today who is quite concerned about some *daily* changes
on his chest xrays. He is going back on the 26th to probably do a lung biopsy
and be started on interferon gamma. (All of this is sounding a little too deja
vu for me). He is 80 years old so I am quite concerned. Anyway, with all
this going on for him I feel like I really DO need to go home for Christmas and
try to stay through the lung biopsy and my parents do not have a computer at
their house. I have no idea when I might be somewhere to even check on
messages so I have had to take this drastic step so my mailbox won't be flooded
within two days (we all know that I belong to too many groups!) For those of
you on my kitty lists Mark will be taking care of Mr. Figment and will follow
through with his daily Pepcid, sub q fluids, Renagen, Petinic, and Nutrical
along with the KD food when possible. His PCV was 21 today so we are going to
go without Procrit for another week and check it again next Friday. This isn't
a very good PCV but probably *doable* for now. For those of you on my Hepatitis
lists please know that I will miss you every day and will keep everyone in my
prayers and will try to get back into the swing of things soon. For those of
you on my nutrition and herb lists, please know that I am going to do my very
best to eat only *good* things while I am gone :-) For those of you that
continue to give me so much positive uplifting mental support, I thank you from
the bottom of my heart and please don't write to me, I already know you will
keep me and my family in your prayers. I will be back to the groups as soon as
I can :-) I have a few emails to go through tonight that I will try to get
answered but I have already changed the settings and I just wanted everyone to
know this. Take care of yourselves (and your kitties) and I will be back soon
:-) Have a very Merry Christmas and if I am not back before....... have a very
Happy New Year! TTYL
Peace and Love,
Pam
"I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is
infinitely superior." - Hippolyte Taine
PS Mr. Oxygen and Mr. Xanax and Mr. Cellphone will be
along for the ride....... so I should be just fine :-)
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Re:Gloria/Glo

2008-05-24 06:37:49

Hi all

Gulf War

2008-05-23 21:17:31

From: Angls4Hope@...
Subject: OT: Mystery surrounds secret 1991 vaccines....GRRRRRRrrrrrrr
Mystery surrounds secret 1991 vaccines
David Pallister
Monday December 16, 2002
The Guardian
Britain sent more than 53,000 troops to the Gulf war 12 years ago.
They faced
the threat of chemical and biological attacks and a series of medical
counter
measures were hurredly introduced. The range of vaccines was kept
secret,
even from the troops, to prevent the Iraqis learning how they were
protected..
But with the politcal furore over Gulf war syndrome, the Ministry of
Defence
published the full details - six years after the war - and admitted
there
were "significant deficiencies" in the programme.
Each individual was given up to 12 vaccines. First there were the
routine
ones to prevent disease: yellow fever, hepatitis B, typhoid, tetanus,
cholera
and polio. Some received jabs for meningitis and hepatitis A.
Then there were the anti-biological vaccines for anthrax and plague.
The
anthrax jab was given with one for pertussis (whooping cough) to make
it work
quicker, although this combination had never been tested on humans.
Warnings
about the risk from the Department of Health and the National
Institute for
Biological Standards and control were ingnored. After the war,
research at
Porton Down, the government's defence laboratory, concluded that the
use of
pertussis was ineffective.
For protection against a chemical attack everyone took a tablet
containing
the drug pyridostigmine bromide, which some scientists now believe
may have
been a contributory cause of neurological problems in veterans.
The troops were also exposed to potentially hazardous organophosphate
pesticides, one of which was unauthorised and other, unidentified,
ones were
bought locally.
When veterans first started complaining of ill health, the most
predominant
symptoms were similar to those for chronic fatigue. Others included:
headaches, memory loss, muscle pain, nausea, gastrointestinal
problems, loss
of concentration, vision and balance problems and depression. It has
been
established that veterans deployed to the Gulf are two to three times
more
likely to report symptoms than those not deployed.
Dozens of research experiments have been carried out since the late
1990s
with the UK spending m and the US $213m (m). No conclusive results
have been made but the early UK concentration on whether post-
traumatic
stress caused the illnesses has now largely been ruled out.

Merry Christmas to Everyone!

2008-05-23 13:53:51

Stay safe and warm and close to your loved ones!
http://holidays.blastcomm.com/
Sharon

Looking for more singles?

2008-05-23 12:16:32

Please, visit us at this other Hep C singles site! You can see
"Members" there and find others in your area! Also, check out the
"links" on the left at the site for more sites!

Dana Update!!!!!!

2008-05-23 11:42:45

DANA UPDATE!!!!!!!!
Dana is still a bit under the weather but has had a bunch of testing done and is
curremtly awaiting results, yesrerday she got to have an EEG where they put all
that YUCKY glue in your hair and look at your brain and we are glad to announce
that contrary to popular public opinion Dana does have a brain LOL those little
mirrors were left in her hair so tonight there will be a party for Dana as soon
as the sun goes down where we will put Dana in a spinning chair and take turns
shining a flashlight at her head until she barfs like a drunk pumpkin. Then we
will put her in her bed and let Holly and Rocky nudge her off on the floor where
she will sleep till the party ends at dawn LOL Strider and Katie will be in
charge then so mind yer P's and Q's OK? Then we will form a caravan and drive
back to the real world with large canines jumping over our cars all the way!!
Dana will get her new computer set up as soon as she can get her house
in order so she has a place to put it! She sends her love to everyone of us old
coots and says WELCOME to all the multitudes of newbies, so everyone please
pause a moment to beam some strength and goodwill in her direction OK ? Be
assured that Holly Rocky and Strider are taking good care of her till she comes
back to assult us all with her saucy wit and ambivalent rhetoric (shit I could
write for the current administrations press team) NOT Id proabaly tell the
truth to much! LOL Thanks for the sputum info Pam it makes me feel better since
in the time Ive had hep Ive done alot of kissing,just none in recent memory!
Love ...Mykal Oh maybe butts dont count????

If You Hate Forwards, Read This!

2008-05-23 01:48:46

** For all of you who delete fwds before you read them, this is for you **
A man and his dog were walking along a road.
The man was enjoying the scenery, when it suddenly
occurred to him that he was dead. He remembered
dying, and that the dog had been dead for years.
He wondered where the road was leading them.
After a while, they came to a high, white stone wall
along one side of the road. It looked like fine marble.
At the top of a long hill, it was broken by a tall
arch that glowed in the sunlight. When he was standing
before it, he saw a magnificent gate in the arch that
looked like mother of pearl, and the street that
led to the gate looked like pure gold.
He and the dog walked toward the gate, and as he got
closer, he saw a man at a desk to one side.
When he was close enough, he called out,
"Excuse me, where are we?"
"This is Heaven, sir," the man answered.
"Wow! Would you happen to have some water?" the man asked.
"Of course, sir. Come right in, and I'll have some
ice water brought right up."
The man gestured, and the gate began to open.
"Can my friend," gesturing toward his dog, "come in, too?"
the traveler asked.
"I'm sorry, sir, but we don't accept pets."
The man thought a moment and then turned back toward
the road and continued the way he had been going.
After another long walk, and at the top of
another long hill, he came to a dirt road which led
through a farm gate that looked as if it had never been closed.
There was no fence. As he approached the gate, he saw
a man inside, leaning against a tree and reading a book.
"Excuse me!" he called to the reader. "Do you have any water?"
"Yeah, sure, there's a pump over there" The man pointed to a place that
couldn't be seen from outside the gate. "Come on in."
"How about my friend here?" the traveler gestured to the dog.
"There should be a bowl by the pump."
They went through the gate, and sure enough, there was
an old fashioned hand pump with a bowl beside it.
The traveler filled the bowl and took a long
drink himself, then he gave some to the dog.
When they were full, he and the dog walked back toward
the man who was standing by the tree waiting for them.
"What do you call this place?" the traveler asked.
"This is Heaven," was the answer.
"Well, that's confusing," the traveler said.
"The man down the road said that was Heaven, too."
"Oh, you mean the place with the gold street and
pearly gates? Nope. That's Hell."
"Doesn't it make you mad for them to use your name like that?"
"No. I can see how you might think so, but we're just
happy that they screen out the folks who'll leave their
best friends behind."
Sometimes, we wonder why friends keep forwarding jokes
to us without writing a word, maybe this could explain:
"When you are very busy, but still want to keep in touch,
guess what you do -- you forward jokes.
When you have nothing to say, but still want to
keep contact, you forward jokes.
When you have something to say, but don't know what,
and don't know how, you forward jokes."
And to let you know that: you are still remembered,
you are still important, you are still loved, you are
still cared for, guess what you get? A forwarded joke from me.
So my friend, next time if you get a joke, don't think
that I have sent you just a joke, but that I have thought of
you today and wanted to send you a smile.

The following items have been posted to www.hcvadvocate.org and www.hbvadvocate.org --

2008-05-22 19:40:26

The following items have been posted to www.hcvadvocate.org and
www.hbvadvocate.org --
**March 2006 HCV Advocate newsletter.
http://www.hcvadvocate.org/news/newsLetter/2006/advocate0306.html
In this issue:
· The Future Burden of HCV: Part 2
· HealthWise: Stigma: Living with the Label of Others
· HVC News for the 2006 Retrovirus Conference
· Patient Assistance Programs
· Extrahepatic Manifestation: Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma
**Media Advisory: Hepatitis C Month Sign-on Letter to the President
http://www.hcvadvocate.org/news/media_Feb27_06.htm
**HEPATITIS JOURNAL REVIEW: By Liz Highleyman
In This Issue: Hepatitis C --Spontaneous HCV Clearance, Racial and Ethnic
Differences in Hepatitis C, Steatosis and Metabolic Disorders and Retinal Damage
as a Side Effect of Interferon
http://www.hcvadvocate.org/news/newsRev/2006/HJR-3.4.html
**Weekly News Review: Week Ending February 25th, 2006
http://www.hcvadvocate.org/news/newsRev/2006/NewsRev-141.html
In this Issue:
· Experts Warn Public on Dangers of Hep C
· Starting Small, Dreaming Big
· Suit Says Bone Marrow Caused Her Hepatitis C
· Hep C Key Lies in New Needles, Not Education
· Blood Victims Fear Court Case May Fail
· CROI: More on Sexual Transmission of HCV In HIV+ Gay Men and
Heterosexual Women
· CROI: Liver Fibrosis and Noninvasive Monitoring Tools in HIV/HCV
Coinfected Patients
· Dentist's Prison Work Investigated
· Waging War on Hepatitis C
· Tainted-Blood Case to Continue
· Reuters Summit-Hepatitis B Market Underestimated-Idenix
· Hep C-1b Strains More Pathogenic for Recurrent Infection
· Non-Invasive Indexes Predict Liver Fibrosis in Hep C With HIV
· Hepatitis C Could Infect 800,000 Australians by 2020
· ViRexx Presents Hepatitis C Chimigen'TM' Technology at Baculovirus &
Insect Cell Culture Annual Meeting
· Full Steam Ahead for Blood Trial
· NICE Backs New Hep B Drugs
· Anti-Viral Hep C Therapy Associated with Reduced Quality of Life
· Hepatitis C - Silent Epidemic
· Prison Hepatitis C Infections a Time Bomb for All
· Coley Pharmaceutical Group Initiates Phase II Clinical Study of
Actilon(TM) for Hepatitis C
· Town Hall Opens Needle Exchange
· Teen Determined to Get Father Liver Transplant
Hepatitis B
**HBV Journal Review: Vol 3. no 3. March 2006
Christine Kukka
http://www.hbvadvocate.org/news/NewsUpdates_pdf/News_Review_2006/HBJ-3.3.pdf

Re: [HepCingles2] More on HCV in Saliva

2008-05-22 08:24:27

OHHH Pam does this mean HCV might be passed through kissing? Man I hope not
Please let me know what you think of that...Mykal

Merry Christmas!

2008-05-22 07:41:41

http://www.castlemountains.net/flashdec/xmas_house.swf
Peace and Love,
Pam
" If a dog jumps in your lap, it is because he is fond of you; if a cat does the
same thing, it is because your lap is warmer. " - Anonymous
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

More on HCV in Saliva

2008-05-21 19:49:29

Hepatitis C Virus A Factor In Some Cases Of Sjogren's Syndrome? A DGReview of
:"Presence of Hepatitis C Virus RNA in the Salivary Glands of Patients with
Sjögren's Syndrome and Hepatitis C Virus Infection"
Journal of Rheumatology
12/02/2002
By Anne MacLennan
The possibility that hepatitis C virus (HCV) plays a direct role in the
physiopathology of certain cases of primary Sjogren's syndrome (SS) has been
raised by a study in France.
Researchers there have found HCV may propagate and live in salivary gland
tissue, leading to HCV-linked sialadenitis or Sjogren's-like syndrome in some
cases, although the phenomenon does not seem specific.
Dr Eric Toussirot and colleagues from the University Hospital Jean Minjoz and
St-Jacques Hospital, Besançon sought to determine if HCV RNA could be detected
in the salivary glands of patients with diagnoses of both SS and HCV infection.
The researchers examined five patients with primary SS (European criteria) and
chronic HCV infection and three control patients. One of the controls had
primary SS without HCV infection, another had HCV infection without sicca
syndrome and a third had neither SS nor HCV
infection.
Reverse transcriptase-polymerase chain reaction was used to test for the
presence of HCV-RNA in the saliva, serum and salivary glands of all study
subjects.
In the group of patients, HCV-RNA was detected in the serum and saliva of all
five cases, and RNA extracted from salivary gland specimens tested positive in
three of these cases.
In the control group, however, no HCV-RNA detected in the serum, saliva or
salivary glands of subjects who had no HCV infection.
Only those control subjects with HCV but no sicca syndrome tested positive for
the presence of HCV-RNA.
The finding indicates there may be a direct role for HCV in certain cases of
primary SS, the researchers conclude.
J Rheumatol 2002;29:2382-5. "Presence of Hepatitis C Virus RNA in the Salivary
Glands of Patients with Sjögren's Syndrome and Hepatitis C Virus Infection"
www.docguide.com
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Random Acts of Silliness

2008-05-21 18:07:45

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~clotho/silly/silly.htm

Peppermint Patti's Medical Links

2008-05-21 10:11:40

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~clotho/medical.htm

Steve?

2008-05-21 00:13:03

hey dude dont feel bad I am 53 going through the treatment.
how you fairing Steve?
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!
If you cry me a river,
I'll build you a bridge
to get over it!

Italian surgeons remove liver to treat cancer

2008-05-20 19:11:06

Italian surgeons remove liver to treat cancer
Last Updated: 2002-12-18 17:01:07 -0400 (Reuters Health)
LONDON (Reuters) - Italian scientists have taken a new approach to treating
liver cancer by removing the organ, dosing it with radiation and then replacing
it in the patient.
A 48-year-old man who was the first patient to have the innovative treatment at
the San Matteo Hospital in Pavia, Italy is cancer-free a year after he was
treated during the 21-hour operation for more than 14 tumors in his liver.
"The out-of-body operation allows doctors to administer high doses of radiation
to widespread tumors without affecting other organs," New Scientist magazine
said Wednesday.
Surgeon Aris Zonta and physicist Tazio Pinelli of the National Institute of
Nuclear Physics in Italy, who co-ordinated the procedure, are awaiting approval
to treat six other patients with multiple tumors.
The original patient had cancer of the colon, which had spread to the liver. The
cancer did not respond to chemotherapy and was so widespread that conventional
radiotherapy would have destroyed the liver.
The Italian scientists decided to try boron neutron capture therapy which they
have been working on since 1987 and which was first attempted in the 1950s.
It involves injecting a fluid containing boron atoms into the patient and using
a low-energy neutron beam to split the boron into particles that kill the
cancerous cells.
But an even dose of neutrons is needed to treat the entire organ and bones in
the body can block the beam so the surgeons removed the liver, treated it and
then replaced in the body.
"By explanting the organ, we could give a high and uniform dose to all the
liver, which is impossible to obtain inside the body without serious risk to the
patient," Pinelli told the magazine.
Although the treatment, which has been dubbed TAORMINA, was successful and could
give new hope to seriously ill patients it would only be suitable for
patients whose cancer has spread to only one other organ and if they are strong
to survive the operation. "The technique is currently being tested on patients
with otherwise untreatable brain tumors -- obviously without
removing the organ in question," the magazine added.
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

Docs Spread Infection in German Hospitals

2008-05-20 18:53:18

Docs Spread Infection in German Hospitals: Expert
By Ned Stafford
FRANKFURT (Reuters Health) - Doctors are the prime culprits behind inadequate
hygiene in German hospitals, which results in up to 1 million patients each year
contracting needless infections, according to a German expert.
Virology Professor Manfred H. Wolff of the University of Witten/Herdecke issued
a press statement this week accusing doctors of being unschooled in hygiene,
saying that the biggest problem was insufficient hand disinfection before and
after patient visits.
While doctors are his prime target, he said that in some cases hospitals trying
to save money on cleaning costs end up with cleaning staff who don't follow
proper hygiene practices.
"Every nurse in Germany has more education in hygiene than doctors," Wolff told
Reuters Health on Thursday.
An expert on hospital hygiene issues, Wolff said he issued the statement after
receiving phone calls the past couple of months about infection problems at
hospitals, which he declined to identify.
One of his prime goals in issuing the statement, he said, is to try to make
German hospitals and doctors more aware that many infections could be stopped
with simple hand washing.
"It goes without saying that one should wash his hands after a visit to the
bathroom," he said. "And, likewise, one should disinfect hands before and after
visiting a patient."
He said that nurses, with their training in hygiene, should be given more
authority to enforce hygiene rules.
He said his other goal is to embolden patients to speak out when they feel a
doctor is practicing unhygienic behavior.
"Patients should remind doctors to disinfect their hands," he said

Re: Survivor or victim?

2008-05-20 11:11:59

Hey Mark
Don't ever ever say you took a Drink!! The asshole Docs. think
everybody is an alcholholic(spell) and they look for excuse's not to
treat people or put you off(for 6 months). They have a big caseload
and this is how they thin it out. You have to make up something like
you were at a wedding and had to give a toast or something.
Alcohol is definately bad for heppers. I will say something here I
have never said before! My former wife who is dead now cleared the
HepC virus with interferon and ribavirin and drink a 40 oz. beer
every other night while on treatment, but unfortunatly died of
emphysema. THIS IS NOT PERMISSION TO DRINK, she was just lucky!

Welcome to The Big Cartoon DataBase

2008-05-20 05:22:35

http://www.bcdb.com/

Re: [HepCingles2] Survivor or victim?

2008-05-19 21:38:55

that is so good i am going to start looking at this
with a open mind thanks

Hepatitis C virus replicates in sweat glands

2008-05-19 21:16:52

Online ISSN: 1096-9071 Print ISSN: 0146-6615
Journal of Medical Virology
Volume 68, Issue 4, 2002. Pages: 529-536
Published Online: 10 Oct 2002
Copyright © 2002 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

Survivor or victim?

2008-05-19 08:12:52

Although the definition of a survivor is anyone who has ever been diagnosed with
a life threatening disease and is alive today......the first time I read
it.....I didn't feel like a survivor. A Hep C victim seemed a much more accurate
term. But then the dust settled, treatment began, and I realized the "victim"
thing just didn't fit. I tossed the victim/survivor issue around and finally
came to the conclusion that a victim and a survivor are the same
thing - almost! The differences are subtle but at the same time enormous. The
first thing I realized it that a survivor is a victim with an attitude. After I
understood that, things were a little better. I had a choice about something - I
could be a Hep C victim or a Hep C survivor. I like the idea of
having an attitude and I like the sound of being a survivor. Survivorship is a
state of mind - despite the moments of sadness and pain we must never lose our
ability to laugh - we must treasure every moment and face each new
situation to the best of our ability. We must never allow this virus to reach
our spirit. I think that makes us survivors in the truest sense of the word. The
difference between being a survivor or a victim become clearer as the days and
week pass. I am sure every survivor can add one or two of their own thoughts and
ideas. Being a victim is a state of body - being a survivor is a state of mind.
A victim knows about feeling down - a survivor know feeling down is okay. A
victim dreads the side effects of treatments - a survivor
wonders how to cancel their membership in the Side-Effect-of-the-Month Club. A
victim is amazed at all their tears - a survivor never leaves home without
Kleenex. A victim goes to "see" a doctor - a survivor "consults" with his or
her physician. A victim feels helpless - a survivor says "thanks" with dignity
and grace. A victim enjoys a good laugh - a survivor loves one. From the moment
we are diagnosed, we are victims - we must choose to be survivors.
Author: Paula (Bachleda) Koskey
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

Re: [HepCingles2] Digest Number 275

2008-05-19 05:03:52

Hey Bill! I'm a little slow at things and have trouble
keeping up with all the hep c sites but I want you to
know that I am so very happy for you! Grandchildren
sure can put sunshine even in the darkest corners of
life! I have six grandchildren so my life shines all
the time! :-) Enjoy your blessings!!!
Love, Gloria

Hepatitis C Saturday night Chat!

2008-05-18 19:11:11

Have Hepatitis C? Want to talk? Please meet us at the HepCat Hideout Chat at
http://forums.delphiforums.com/HepCingles
on Saturday nights at 7pm PST which is 10pm EST. You do NOT have to be single
to attend!! EVERYONE with Hep C or interested in Hep C is encouraged to attend.
If someone is not there PLEASE hang out for a few and they will show up shortly
:-) Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend and I am sorry I didn't get this out
in a more timely manner........ Take care all!!
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

Re: New to group and Hep C

2008-05-18 16:09:07

Hi Karen and Welcome to the Group.
My advice is becareful reading about all the side effects of HepC!
When I first found out I had HepC and starting reading about it I
developed all kinds of problems as fast as I could read about
them.LOL~~~~~~~TC~~~~~in Michigan

Re: [HepCingles2] Marijuana-Like Medications May Ease Anxiety

2008-05-18 10:22:48

Gee folks I wonder when the idiots will figure out that the stupor is whats
reduces the stress factor. The reason that they refuse to legalize it is becaues
the altered mental state also makes people ask the questions they refuse to
answer, like why does it feel so much like we are slaves with benifiets? They
are such fools! its not like we care, we just like to ask LOL...Mykal

Gary

2008-05-18 05:09:15

Gary ,if you hit that viral neg with no meds you got some good genetics, when do
you think you got hcv ? Years ago, months ago ,if your viral ct is dropping
Schering or Roche Ect Ect might give you big $$$$$$$$$$ for some visits while
it is dropping they might want to know why ,if they dont allready . Eric

Impact of smoking on histological liver lesions in chronic hepatitis C

2008-05-18 02:06:20

http://www.gastrohep.com/news/news.asp?id=1741
Impact of smoking on histological liver lesions in chronic hepatitis C
Smoking could aggravate the histological activity of chronic hepatitis C, find
researchers in the January issue of Gut.
In this study, a research team from France examined the association between
smoking and histological liver lesions in chronic hepatitis C.
The team studied 244 consecutive patients (152 men, 92 women; mean age 45.9
years) with histologically proven chronic hepatitis C.
They recorded daily tobacco consumption (number of cigarettes smoked daily)
during the 6 months preceding liver biopsy.
While lifetime tobacco consumption was recorded as the number of cigarette packs
smoked per year.
In addition, the researchers graded liver biopsy specimens for histological
activity and fibrosis using the METAVIR scoring system.
The research team found that the proportion of patients with moderate (A2) or
marked (A3) activity increased gradually from 62% in non-smokers, to 82% in
patients who smoked more than 15 cigarettes per day.
Furthermore, a similar relationship was observed for total lifetime tobacco
consumption.
Patients with moderate to marked histological activity:
- Non-smokers = 62%
- Smokers = 82%
The team found that 59% of patients who had never smoked had grade A2 or A3
disease activity, compared with 85% of patients who smoked more than 20 packs
per year.
Multivariate analysis showed that age over 50 years (odds ratio (OR) 5.4),
alcohol intake exceeding 20 g/day (OR 2.75), and tobacco consumption of more
than 15 cigarettes/day (OR 3.6) were independently related to the
histological activity score.
The researchers found no relationship between the severity of fibrosis, and
either daily tobacco consumption, or total lifetime tobacco consumption.
Multivariate analysis showed that only age over 50 years (OR 8.8), daily alcohol
intake exceeding 30 g/day (OR 3.4), and histological activity score (OR 7.9)
were independently related to the fibrosis score.
Dr Hézode's team concluded, "This study suggests that smoking, independent of
alcohol, could aggravate the histological activity of chronic hepatitis C".
"Patients with chronic hepatitis C virus infection should be advised to reduce
or stop smoking."
Gut 2003; 52: 126-9
13 December 2002
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

A smile or three ;-)

2008-05-17 13:41:08

http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/dah18/america/
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

A Transplant Story

2008-05-17 12:15:50

Treatment Issues - October 2002 www.gmhc.org
My New Liver
by Larry Kramer
It is very, very hard to obtain an organ transplant in the United States. First,
there are so few organs available. Second, it is hard to locate a transplant
center willing to do coinfecteds - that's what they call you when you have a
virus like HIV with hep B or C. Third, if and when they accept you, you have to
wait in line. Depending on which part of the country you are applying from, and
which medical center, it takes varying amounts of waiting time. It never happens
quickly. There is far too much red tape and
bureaucracy for that. Fourth, and perhaps first, you have to do an awful lot of
investigation, research, phoning, faxing, e-mailing, pestering, even (how shall
I put it?) raising your voice (politely, of course) to accomplish any of this.
Patient empowerment takes on new meaning. You have to become a very fervent
activist, for yourself. If you aren't feeling so hot then you need someone with
persistent and unflagging energy to do it for you. You need such a person even
if you are feeling great. A transplant is something you simply
cannot enter into on your own. In fact, no transplant center will accept you if
you cannot show that your support system is visible and strong.
But if you know you are going to die if you don't get a new organ, as was my
case, you'd be surprised what a motivation this can be. I was given six months
and was down to the wire when I finally got the call. At 67 I am the
oldest person thus far transplanted with a new liver. My surgeon says in all
seriousness that you are as old as your liver. I now have the liver of a 45-
year-old man. Each day I feel vital and vibrant. I have no side effects. My
hepatitis B appears to be gone from my body. And I truly feel like I am 45
again. Everything I went through was worth it, tremendously so.
You must investigate the half-dozen or so medical centers (the number is
growing) that will take us. You must never stop your efforts to a) make a
transplant surgeon evaluate you and b) get one to accept you. Many people apply
to several different centers, but that can be very expensive. There are a lot of
evaluation testing costs you must bear before you can be officially accepted,
and your insurance, if you have any, picks these up only if and when you are
accepted for transplant. I was lucky. There happened to be a spurt of interest
in transplanting coinfecteds when I applied. It helps to be a scientific
curiosity. I believe I was the 22nd coinfected to be transplanted. The NIH is
currently preparing a research protocol to study transplants for conifecteds;
one of these days it will be approved and you might qualify for that.
When you finally find someone willing to accept you, you have to figure out how
to pay for your transplant. No medical center will take you unless you can prove
up front that you can pay. Not long ago if you were coinfected and
looking for a new liver, you would have been turned down by your insurance
company because saving your life was considered experimental. That's changed
because of heroic surgeons like John Fung at the University of Pittsburgh
Medical Center who knew better and proved it and confronted the insurers
himself. Still, insurance companies usually have to be challenged if they turn
you down, which on the first go-round they usually always automatically
do, hoping you will not appeal. Medicare rejected me the first time but we
appealed and in one day they had reversed their decision. Empire Blue Cross, my
secondary insurer, accepted me immediately.
My liver transplant has cost Medicare, so far, over $500,000 and Empire Blue
Cross, so far, over $100,000 for the continuing medications I must take,
including a monthly pop of some $10,000 for something called Hepatitis B
Immune Globulin, which I believe I must receive for the rest of my life. And you
need to get your blood tested every few weeks. That costs a lot too.
So we are not talking about an easy or inexpensive ride here. The easiest part,
believe it or not, was the transplant itself. I wasn't in any pain, ever. The
recuperation period is long; getting your wind and motor abilities back can
require many months of physical rehab and taking it easy. You must have
patience, which I don't. Months of not doing anything can verge on the
depressing. And if you don't live near a transplant center, you may have to move
close by for the months of the whole process. My lover and care partner
(two different people, and I couldn't have got through the process without
either one of them) lived with me in Pittsburgh for many months. I needed the
love of my partner, David Webster, every single minute. Boy did I need it. This
is lonely and cosmically metaphysical stuff to live through. (One day they tell
you you're going to die, and then suddenly you don't.) Hugs and kisses and
smiles and homemade food and constant gentle urgings that "you
can do it" sure help you get better faster. And I was not an easy patient. I
know that. And I needed the bossy efficiency of my very own Nurse Ratchett,
Rodger McFarlane, who had every secretary, nurse, technician, and doctor at
Presbyterian Hospital extra-attentive to his patient's case.
I was additionally lucky because I was able to meet the criteria for acceptance
last year. I don't think I would have qualified under new guidel ines, called
MELD (Model for End Stage Liver Disease), which came into effect at the
beginning of this year. The guidelines were developed by the Mayo Clinic, and
consciously or unconsciously, MELD criteria appear to be blatantly
discriminatory against coinfecteds. As I understand them, and very little about
the current or past organ allocation system is understandable
(even by the doctors who get the organs), the abnormal blood markers they look
for to be considered for acceptance are not ones that people with HIV typically
have out of whack. For instance, my PTT, bilirubin, and creatinine were not
greatly elevated. But I was still dying and my liver was still conking out. Yes,
you say "go figure" a lot in this whole process. And figure you do or else you
die.
Alas, most people in need of new organs don't make it. My memory is filled with
haunting images of desperately sick people in the UPMC clinic waiting room
hoping for a chance to grab an arriving surgeon's arm and literally beg
him or her for a liver. And of the stories of uninsured recipients telling me
how everyone in their entire family or indeed community or indeed town had sold
everything they could to pay for their chance at life.
It shouldn't be like this, of course. We know all that. It is not right to have
a system that excludes most of the people who desperately need its services.
Yes, I know that I have been very, very lucky. I can shout "Persistence!" to the
world but all activists have learned the hard way: we don't get anything without
a terrible fight. If we want to live, we must fight like hell. And the fighting
must never stop.
Larry Kramer co-founded Gay Men's Health Crisis and founded ACT UP
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Marijuana-Like Medications May Ease Anxiety

2008-05-17 07:31:42

Marijuana-Like Medications May Ease Anxiety
By Jacqueline Stenson
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Seeking to induce the anxiety-reducing effects of
marijuana without causing mental stupor or the munchies, scientists have
identified two experimental drugs that appear to do just that in lab rats.
The research might eventually lead to an entirely new class of medications to
combat anxiety and depression, said study author Daniele Piomelli, a professor
of pharmacology at the University of California at Irvine.
The active component in marijuana, THC, acts similarly to naturally occurring
neurotransmitters in the brain called cannabinoids, which can play a role in
mood, he told Reuters Health.
The new drugs, URB532 and URB597, work by inhibiting an enzyme that breaks down
the cannabinoid known as anandamide, he explained.
And as evidenced by his animal research, reported in the advance online
publication of the January issue of Nature Medicine, the result is higher brain
levels of anandamide, which in turn ease anxiety in rats. When given the drugs,
the animals squeaked less when subjected to isolation and were less tentative
when placed in a maze with exposed spaces. In the wild, such spaces put the
animals at risk of predator attack.
However, the rats did not experience typical THC side effects such as increased
appetite, reduced body temperature or loss of motor function, all of which would
signal cannabinoid intoxication in the animals. That's probably because THC acts
directly on cannabinoid receptors on brain cells, whereas the new drugs work in
a different, more subtle way, Piomelli said.
The effect of the experimental drugs is similar to antidepressants like Prozac,
which boost brain levels of another neurotransmitter, serotonin, he said. "Some
people have low levels of serotonin, and maybe there are some people who have
low levels of anandamide," he said.
The new drugs show promise as novel ways to treat anxiety and depression in
people, Piomelli said.
Human studies with the new drugs could begin within a year, he added.
SOURCE: Nature Medicine 2002;10.1038/nm803.
Last Updated: 2002-12-02 10:00:42 -0400 (Reuters Health)
http://www.realage.com/HB25/HB25.asp?wci=HArticle&cid=13872&sid=1128
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Laughter CD for Depression on Sale in Austria

2008-05-17 00:03:04

Laughter CD for Depression on Sale in Austria
By Michael Leidig
VIENNA (Reuters Health) - A compact disc of people laughing, produced by the
Austrian society for depression-related illnesses (OeGDE), has gone on the
market in Europe in a serious bid to help patients "see the brighter side of
life."
The CD is a 20-minute compilation of what the makers describe as "infectious
laughter and motivation-boosting statements by celebrities."
Dr. Hermann Koutek, from the OeGDE, told Reuters Health that they wanted to give
those suffering from depression something to laugh about.
"When someone is really depressed there is usually nothing in their lives to
laugh at. We wanted to produce something simple but effective that people can
easily turn to when they want to be cheered up," he said.
He said the CD should be treated seriously and was not just a gimmick.
"There has been solid scientific research behind the CD. The people who come for
help at the OeGDE usually suffer from severe depression. They can neither laugh
or cry. They are empty inside and cannot express any emotions, whether positive
or negative. They simply do not care," Koutek explained.
"The process of bringing depressed people out of this despondency has to be a
slow and sensitive one. We have found a laugh is infectious. It can lift
somebody out of a deep depression, even if it is only for a little while--but
it's a good start," he said.
Koutek added that a CD of laughter was much more likely to work than other
approaches because it was only directed at one of the senses and was less likely
to cause offence.
"Depression sufferers are very sensitive, they cannot be overburdened with
sounds, images or feelings, which is why the CD works. Sound is much easier to
take in than pictures. Music is also good as a first step to recovery, but not
all will have the same uplifting effects as laughter."
Koutek added that the CD worked best when used alongside prescribed medicine.
"Medication is also needed for long-term recovery," he said.
The CD, which is currently only available in German, features the laughter of a
number of Austrian celebrities, including Olympic ski champion Michaela
Dorfmeister, singer Reinhardt Fendrich, Governor of Lower Austria Erwin Proll
and former star footballer Tony Polster.
Koutek said that he would also be interested in making laughter CDs for foreign
language markets. He said, "As far as I am aware, this is the only such CD in
the world. It would be a great step in the battle against depression; it
transcends borders."
The OeGDE is an Austria-based physicians' organisation founded 2 years ago. It
provides help and information on depression-related illnesses to both doctors
and patients, and promotes home visits to housebound patients.
The society is also hoping to expand across borders. Koutek said, "We have
looked for similar associations the world over but have been unsuccessful. There
are many self-help groups, but these usually aren't supported by professionals.
We would very much like to set up a network of similar organisations across
Europe and eventually all around the world."
Last Updated: 2002-11-27 13:00:58 -0400 (Reuters Health)
http://www.realage.com/HB25/HB25.asp?wci=HArticle&cid=13871&sid=1128
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Feeling Stressed Out Weakens Immune System Response

2008-05-16 15:53:08

Feeling Stressed Out Weakens Immune System Response
By Charnicia E. Huggins
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People who consider themselves to be stressed out
and who are anxious or otherwise psychologically distressed may be less able to
fight off the diseases they have been immunized against, study findings suggest.
Consequently, "it might be important to monitor antibody status following
vaccination when vaccinating those who are likely to be experiencing high
perceived stress and low levels of psychological well-being," lead study author
Dr. Victoria Burns of the University of Birmingham in England told Reuters
Health.
In fact, the perception of high stress seems to be more important than whether
or not individuals have actually experienced highly stressful events, the report
indicates.
Burns and her colleagues looked at 60 freshmen undergraduate students who had
been vaccinated against meningitis C between 1 and 16 months before they were
enrolled in the study.
Based on blood samples, nearly three quarters (73%) of the students had a
protective level of antibodies to the disease, while the remaining students had
a less protective level--meaning they had fewer antibodies against the pathogen,
the investigators report in the November/December issue of Psychosomatic
Medicine.
Students who experienced a parent's death or some other highly stressful life
event were no more likely than other students to exhibit a lessened immune
response. However, those who reported high levels of perceived stress were five
times more likely to have fewer antibodies, the report indicates.
This was true even among students who said they had not actually experienced
many highly stressful events.
For example, nearly 8 in 10 of the students who considered themselves to lead
highly stressful lives, but actually reported experiencing only low levels of
stressful events, had a low level of antibodies in comparison to 65% of students
who perceived their life as stressful and had gone through highly stressful
events.
"It appears to be the perception of stress and poor psychological well-being,
rather than the actual stressful events that you experience, that appears to be
detrimental to your meningitis C antibody status following vaccination," Burns
said.
"These are your typical stressed-out people," she said, adding that they may be
the most likely to have physiological and psychological responses to stress.
Further, students who had high levels of psychological stress had a fourfold
increased risk of having lower antibody levels. This increased risk was
especially true for students who were identified as high in anxiety/insomnia and
social dysfunction, the researchers note.
In light of the findings, people who are vaccinated during periods of high
stress, such as students around the time of final examinations or new military
recruits about to be sent off to war, should be re-evaluated at some point to
make sure they have the appropriate level of antibodies in their blood against
the diseases they are immunized against, Burns said.
Doctors and other healthcare workers usually just "jab them and assume they're
okay," she said.
SOURCE: Psychosomatic Medicine 2002;64.
Last Updated: 2002-11-29 11:18:14 -0400 (Reuters Health)
http://www.realage.com/HB25/HB25.asp?wci=HArticle&cid=13866&sid=1128
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Re: [HepCingles2] New to group and Hep C

2008-05-16 08:42:11

Dear Karen, sorry to hear you got Hep but you came to the right place there is
good info and more importantly good people here,Watch out for Nancy though I
think she is a lunatic LOL...Mykal

Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.

2008-05-16 02:53:36

Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.
It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a
prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-
mail messages without disclosing your true identity.
In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a
blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for
small favors, I guess.
This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of
Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and
Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include
stiff fines and two years in prison.
"The use of the word 'annoy' is particularly problematic," says Marv
Johnson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties
Union. "What's annoying to one person may not be annoying to someone
else."
Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit
called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone
harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without
disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy."
To grease the rails for this idea, Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania
Republican, and the section's other sponsors slipped it into an
unrelated, must-pass bill to fund the Department of Justice. The
plan: to make it politically infeasible for politicians to oppose the
measure.
The tactic worked. The bill cleared the House of Representatives by
voice vote, and the Senate unanimously approved it Dec. 16.

New to group and Hep C

2008-05-16 01:23:05

Hi everyone, I don't normally join groups as I'm pretty shy but I
have just been diagnosed and don't know where to turn for support or
info. Hope you can pull me out of my shell and help. Who knows I may
have something to offer too. I don't even know where to start about
this illness as I've only been to the doctor once to find out which
type I have and am scheduled for more blood work and another doctor
visit next week. I'm not sure what to expect. Any thoughts would be
appreciated. Thank you, Karen

Re: [HepCingles2] A woman's perfect day

2008-05-15 17:39:26

LOLOLOL

Chat reminder!, 3/29/2006, 9:30 pm

2008-05-15 13:32:19

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of HepCingles2
Chat reminder!
Wednesday March 29, 2006
9:30 pm - 1:30 am
This event repeats every week.
The next reminder for this event will be sent in 18 hours, 4 minutes.
Event Location: Chat Room at HepCingles2

A woman's perfect day

2008-05-15 02:44:51

A woman's perfect day starts out like this: She get's the box of Wheaties from
the cabinet...her son's picture is on the box...she looks thru the magazines on
the table...her boyfriend's face smiles at her from the cover of Gentleman's
Quarterly....as she pours her milk into the bowl she notices her husband's face
on the back of the carton...

Re: [HepCingles2] RAY OF SUNSHINE

2008-05-14 18:45:19

Wow Bill! congradulations Grandpa, thanks for the uplifting letter too ENJOY!
Mykal

HCV Drug Costs

2008-05-14 15:14:51

NEED HELP FOR NY TIMES INVESTIGATION OF HCV DRUG COSTS
:
: Hi FOLKS,
:
: I HAVE GOTTEN THE NEW YORK TIMES interested in doing an article on HCV
treatment costs and the delays in FDA approval of lower cost generic version of
ribavirin.
:
: WE NEED A PATIENT WILLING TO BE INTERVIEWED WHO IS HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING
RIBAVIRIN AND/OR PEG-INTRON OR PEGASYS PAID FOR. PREFERABLY SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT
HAVE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE AND WHO'S INCOME IS TOO HIGH TO BE COVERED BY
ROCHE/SCHERING PATIENTS ASSIATANCE PROGRAMS, OR SOMEONE WITH VERY HIGH
COPAYMENTS ON INSURANCE FOR TREATMENT. OR SOMEONE WHO'S INSURANCE COMPANY IS
DELAYING APPROVAL BECAUSE OF COST,OR OTHER SIMILAR SITUATION.
:
: PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP IF YOU KNOW OF SUCH A PATIENT WILLING TO BE INTERVIEWED
AFTER YOU HAVE ASKED THEM.
:
: THANK YOU!!!
:
: Brian D Klein, MA LMSW
: Hepatitis C Action & Advocacy Coalition (HAAC-SF)
: 53 Divisadero Street
: San Francisco, CA 94117
: Tel/Fax: 415-863-5172
: haac_sf@...
: BrianDKlein@...
:
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

bottled water

2008-05-14 12:22:29

MOST BOTTLED WATER DOES NOT CONTAIN flouride or other "GOOD" additives.
above mentioned from Del is because I drink bottled water. He prefers tap.. I
prefer just remembering to drink so I buy bottles..Buy them for Kym as well..if
its in a bottle we seem to want to drink it..make sense? I didn't think so but
it does work for us.
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!
If you cry me a river,
I'll build you a bridge
to get over it!

RAY OF SUNSHINE

2008-05-14 08:23:55

A great ray of sunshine entered my life today. A very beautiful girl
came into my life today. At 8:36 am est my daughter gave birth to my
first grandbaby. All I can say is thank God for organ donors and
transplant doctors as without both I would have never seen this day.
Bill

I am May

2008-05-13 23:00:44

A little change of pace ;-)

Re: [HepCingles2] Let life come

2008-05-13 22:18:46

Well as long as life cums Im kewl I have such a fascination with that!
...Mykal...LOL

Let life come

2008-05-13 12:40:23

Let life come
Let life come to you, the joys and the problems, the victories and the setbacks,
the magnificent beauty and the frustrating difficulties. Let life come, take it
all in, and make the very most of it. Don't fight it or force it, don't hide
from it or run away, let life come as it will. Let life come and experience the
rich, unique flavor of every moment.
Rather than waiting for things to get better or wishing things had not gone the
way they did, let life continue to come and live it as it does. Let life come
and learn from it, grow with it, become your best through whatever comes your
way.
Welcome each new moment and open your eyes to the positive value that it brings.
Sometimes that value is obvious, and other times it is hidden, yet always it is
there.
Let life come, with all its treasures and all its shortcomings. Let life come,
every bit of it, and be truly, gloriously alive.
-- Ralph Marston
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

Re: [HepCingles2] trout

2008-05-13 10:54:35

yea the main trouble is that the trout mouth is so soft you cant jerk to hard or
you lose em Pam They taste soooo good though! and frozen corn is a cheap bait
too DAMN I may drive that 300 miles again soon or maybe 10 miles up the road to
where the state stocks this stream at LOL

Re: [HepCingles2] Re:i know this is corny.......but i need corn today !!!!!!!!!!!

2008-05-12 21:07:03

We all know those cute little computer symbols called "emoticons", where:
:) means a smile and
:( is a frown. Sometimes these are represented by
:-) and ;
:-( or ;
Well, how about some "assicons"? Here goes:
(_!_) a regular ass
(__!__) a fat ass
(!) a tight ass
(_*_) a sore ass
{_!_} a swishy ass
(_o_) an ass that's been around
(_x_) kiss my ass
(_X_) leave my ass alone
(_zzz_) a tired ass
(_E=mc2_) a smart ass
(_$_) Money coming out of his ass
(_?_) Dumb Ass
..oo*"""**oo.oo*""*oo..
oo*" "*o.o*" "*o.
o o o
.o o 'o
o o o.
o o o
o \o/ o
o --0-- o
o. /o\ o
o o o
o o o
o o oo
oo o oo
oo. oo oo
'ooo. .oo. ooo
o ""oo,, ,,oO-'Oo, ,,,,,oo
o. """""" oo """"" o
o oo o
'o o o
o o o
o o o
o o o
o o o
o o o
o o o
You have just been e-mooned!

Pegasys/Ribaviran/Amantadine

2008-05-12 14:05:26

AASLD: Chronic Hepatitis-C Patients Achieve Sustained Response with Amantadine
Plus Pegasys (Pegylated Interferon Alfa-2a) and Ribavirin
By Maria Bishop
Special to DG News
BOSTON, MA -- November 6, 2002 -- Amantadine in combination with pegylated
interferon alfa-2a (Pegasys) and ribavirin showed encouraging results in the
treatment of patients with chronic hepatitis C who had previously
experienced relapse or breakthrough on interferon (IFN) plus ribavirin alone.
This finding was presented November 4 at the annual conference of the American
Association for the Study of Liver Diseases (AASLD) by Steven K. Herrine, MD, of
Thomas Jefferson Hospital in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
United States.
Previous studies have shown that a combination of Pegasys plus ribavirin is
mmore successful in achieving a sustained response than interferon plus
ribavirin.
Dr. Herrine's team set out to determine whether an increased sustained viral
response could be achieved by combining Pegasys plus ribavirin with other
antiviral or immunomodulatory agents, such as amantadine and mycophenolate
mofetil (MMF).
They randomised 124 patients with chronic hepatitis C who had relapsed or
experienced breakthrough on interferon plus ribavirin into one of four treatment
arms:
Group A - Pegasys 180 µg subcutaneously (SC) once weekly, plus ribavirin
800-1000 mg orally in split doses
Group B - Pegasys 180 µg SC once weekly, plus MMF 1000 mg orally twice daily
Group C - Pegasys 180 µg SC once weekly, plus amantadine 100 mg orally twice
daily
Group D - Pegasys 180 µg SC once weekly, plus amantadine 100 mg orally twice
daily and ribavirin 800-1000 mg orally in split doses
Of the 124 participants, 83 completed the 48 weeks of treatment and the 24 weeks
of follow-up. Adverse events were all as expected.
Of the 32 patients who completed the trial in Group A, 22 (68.8 percent)
experienced a significant virological response at week 24. That number dropped
to 19 patients (59.4 percent) at week 48, and 12 patients (37.5 percent) at week
72 (sustained viral response).
Of the 29 patients in Group B, 21 (72.4 percent) experienced a significant
virological response at week 24, and, although all 29 maintained that response
through week 48, this number decreased significantly to five patients at week 72
(17.2 percent).
Of the 31 patients in Group C, 10 (32.3 percent) experienced a significant
virological response at week 24. That number rose to 13 percent (41.9 percent)
at week 48, but dropped to three patients (9.7 percent) at week 72.
Finally, of the 31 patients in Group D, 25 (80.6 percent) experienced a
significant virological response at week 24. That number fell only slightly to
22 (71 percent) at week 48, and was the highest final count for all treatment
arms at week 72, with 14 patients (45.2 percent) experiencing a
sustained virological response.
According to Dr. Herrine, these results are very encouraging for chronic
hepatitis C patients, and the addition of amantadine to Pegasys plus ribavirin
therapy deserves further study.
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

Re: Fremont reels from hepatitis outbreak

2008-05-12 13:53:24

It is so hard to belive that this type of thing keeps happening.Are
these supposed professionals stupid or is it that they just don't care

Randy

2008-05-12 03:56:11

Randy...if you have the WILL you will find a WAY..we'll all help you..we got the
'help me links' !!
~Bayla~
SVRnWaiting
'C' It! Treat It! Beat It!
If you cry me a river,
I'll build you a bridge
to get over it!

Genotypes Explained

2008-05-12 01:08:39

Genotypes Explained
It is much easier to talk of the hepatitis C virus as if it is a
single organism but in fact it is a range of viruses, similar enough to be
called hepatitis C virus, yet different enough to be classified into subgroups.
Viruses are microscopic and no person could ever see them with the naked eye.
Indeed, HCV is so small that there's been no confirmed actual sighting of it
using any type of microscope yet developed.
Consequently, a better way to understand the terms HCV 'genotypes' and
'subtypes' is to compare them to things that we can more readily relate to.
Genotypes
The group of birds we call 'raptors' (birds of prey) have evolved into different
main types. Imagining raptors as being hepatitis C viruses, you could take one
major raptor type, such as eagles, and imagine these as being one of HCV's main
types (genotypes).
Subtypes
But eagles as a group are made up of different sub types such as the American
Bald Eagle and Australia's Wedge Tailed Eagle and Sea Eagle. You could imagine
each of these as being one of the HCV subtypes that make up an HCV genotype.
Quasispecies
Within each of above particular types of eagles, there are further differences.
All Wedge Tailed Eagles, for example, differ from eachother in regard to wing
span, weight, colour, beak size, etc. Similarly, within a hepatitis C sub-type,
individual viruses differ from each other ever so slightly. Such viral
differences are not significant enough to form another sub-type but instead form
what's known as quasi-species. It is believed that within an HCV sub-type,
several million quasispecies may exist. Scientists predict that people who have
hepatitis C, have billions of actual
viruses circulating within their body. Although there may be one or two
predominant sub-types, the infection as a whole is not a single entity and is
composed of many different quasispecies.
Classifications
Biologists are generally not known for creativity when it comes to naming things
- hence hepatitis C virus. The most commonly used classification of hepatitis C
virus has HCV divided into the following genotypes (main types): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11. As we've highlighted, HCV genotypes can be broken down
into sub-types, some of which include:
1a, 1b, 1c
2a, 2b, 2c
3a, 3b
4a, 4b, 4c, 4d, 4e
5a
6a
7a, 7b
8a, 8b
9a
10a
11a
Genotype patterns
It is believed that the hepatitis C virus has evolved over a period of several
thousand years. This would explain the current general global patterns of
genotypes and subtypes:
1a - mostly found in North & South America; also common in Australia
1b - mostly found in Europe and Asia.
2a - is the most common genotype 2 in Japan and China.
2b - is the most common genotype 2 in the US and Northern Europe.
2c - the most common genotype 2 in Western and Southern Europe.
3a - highly prevalent here in Australia (40% of cases) and South Asia.
4a - highly prevalent in Egypt
4c - highly prevalent in Central Africa
5a - highly prevalent only in South Africa
6a - restricted to Hong Kong, Macau and Vietnam
7a and 7b - common in Thailand
8a, 8b & 9a - prevalent in Vietnam
10a & 11a - found in Indonesia
It's believed that of the estimated 160,000 Australians with HCV, approx. 35%
have subtype '1a', 15% have '1b', 7% have '2', 35% have '3' (mostly being 3a).
The remaining people would have other genotypes.
Genotype and treatment
Current scientific belief is that factors such as duration of a
person's HCV infection, their HCV viral load, age, grade of liver inflammation
or stage of fibrosis may play an important role in determining response to
interferon treatment. Recent studies have suggested that a person's HCV subtype
(or subtypes) may influence their possible response to interferon, or
interferon-ribavirin combination treatment. World-wide trials are being
conducted which
will soon shed more light on this belief. We'll publish any reportsas they come
to hand.
Genotypes and Genetic Variation of Hepatitis C Virus by G. Maerterns & L.
Stuyver, reviewed by Dr Greg Dore of the National Centre in HIV Epidemiology &
Clinical Research. From The Hep C Review; Ed 23, December 1998; Paul Harvey
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

Fremont reels from hepatitis outbreak

2008-05-11 16:29:22

http://www.journalstar.com/nw.php?story_id=5050
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/06/2002

Work on it

2008-05-11 13:40:01

Work on it
Though your dream at first seems impossible, work on it anyway, and it goes from
being impossible to improbable. Even so, it is still not very likely, for though
it might could happen, it also might not. Work on it anyway. And with each
effort it becomes more and more likely.Work with persistence, with faith, with
focus and passion. Keep working on what you believe in, on what you can see even
though no one else may completely share your vision. Work on it anyway, and it
goes from being impossible, to being improbable, to being truly likely to
happen. And when you get to that point, where you can see it beginning to
happen, keep working on it anyway, for now is not the time to stop.
When you're almost there, about to reach the goal, and the bottom gets pulled
out from under you, work on it anyway. The faster you recover from setbacks, the
faster you'll get where you're going.
Whatever comes your way, good or bad, helpful or hindering, work on moving
forward anyway. Your commitment to the best of what can be has the ability to
outweigh and overpower whatever may be standing in your way. In response to
every situation, find a way to work on it anyway and you'll find a way to bring
the best of your possibilities to life.
-- Ralph Marston
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/07/2002

trout

2008-05-11 10:39:18

i miss my rocky mountain trout :-) now that was good eating and easy
fishing........ just toss a line into a little stream with a bunch of limbs,
snag what you think is a limb, pull it out to check..... and poof....... a
trout LOL Seriously it was culture shock when i moved from florida
fishing to colorado fishing........ in florida you can cast and wait and
cast and wait and wait and wait in colorado you kind of drop it into the
stream ;-)
Peace and Love,
Pam
"I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is
infinitely superior." - Hippolyte Taine

Re: Marijuana's Distant Relative May Be the Next Prozac

2008-05-10 22:29:12

they will not legalize or even decriminalize pot or any other drug
for exactly that reason, money. There are so many big money people
making a killing on law enforcement,building and mataining
prisons,lawers and judges and the biggie is building fear in the
voting public so that the politicians have something to campain with
bill

Mykal/antirejection meds

2008-05-10 13:16:12

Man Johnny Ive lived here so long driving on the frozen waterways is a dimming
memory for me LOL

Re:LOL, All/ Schering Plough Surpasses 150,000 Patients/

2008-05-10 12:18:02

Mykal, I agree with you about the ins. My carrier had to put up
250,00 just for me to get on the list. I know that you are in
arkyland which in the med community is kind of like bedrock. I don't
know how mobile you are but if I were you I would try to get near one
of the majior northern transplant centers

Pam??Larry??/Ticks /confession from Larry

2008-05-10 02:17:15

if they scratch side to side its ticks up and down its crabs both
means.......both LOL Mykal

Re: [HepCingles2] insurance

2008-05-09 21:37:47

man I was throwing trout back all day yeserday Pam....sorry bet you got trout in
Georgia

Re: [HepCingles2] Marijuana's Distant Relative May Be the Next Prozac

2008-05-09 20:16:55

this is fuckin stupid! people who smoke pot dont need prozac, why not just end
hemp prohibition? for the same reason pot is prohibited, so they can make a
bunch of money DOH!

Re: [HepCingles2] Re:Bill/LOL, All/ Schering Plough Surpasses 150,000 Patients

2008-05-09 12:01:32

yes I am on social security disability and I have hep c a major concussion from
1972 arthuritus in my jambed hip from 1972 and they say I must be crazy ( Im
not of course ) LOLOLOLOLOLOL a past history of heavy LSD use but the main
trouble is that the government funding for all things that are condidered NON
essential (like me) is going to the war we are about to have I have NO private
INS. to bear a percentage of the cost and here in arkyland we have an ordained
southern baptist minister for our governor who is trying to steal any extra
state money for has constituants/church/KKK a good example is our medicaid has a
limit of 500.00 per year allowance for x-rays well I used that all up in Feb. of
this year myself. thats like 2 x-rays ya know and alot of things are worse than
that...Mykal

Re: [HepCingles2] Medicare and Antirejects

2008-05-09 07:42:36

well the three year limit is something that was told to me by the medicaid
liason for my state rep. Mike Ross, her name is Donna Blackwood

Re: [HepCingles2] Re:Mykal/

2008-05-08 19:18:56

thats kewl they have excederine here Dana

Trout/Larry

2008-05-08 18:50:13

OH But Larry didnt you know I was through a marriage and a divorce? I KNOW ALL
about mounting, from either perspective OWWW that hurt too much to laugh! LOL
Mykal

Mykal/antirejection meds

2008-05-08 07:27:46

WOW can you trout fish with your shotgun? Ill get a net and we will have guilt
free meat t' eat that shot can play hell with fillings though,especially
porceline ones!

Re:TC???

2008-05-08 06:04:07

Hey TC,
Ya think Nancy is only posting when we are talking about her???
ROTFLMAO Think we should all bring up her name in all the post and
see if she replies!! LOL Hugs..........Dana in Pa

Re: [HepCingles2] Re:TC???

2008-05-08 05:13:02

<PRE
"uneventful"
day today, Nancy. lol John nyO

Re: AweJohn O

2008-05-07 18:28:30

Hey John,
I probably don't have to tell you this, but the good thing about
being Bipolar, she gets agry, goes into that rage thing, (of which
now I have learned it is much better to let her just get it out and
yell what she is feeling), she takes a nap from being worn out over
the rage, and wakes up and we can discuss it. LOL So she was over
it. Just me being a mother and trying to protect her from things I
did not think she needed to know, but forgetting she was a person who
wanted to know where she came from. Hard desision, to tell, or not
to tell! Me, I want to forget that I ever went through all of it,
though I know it made me the person I am today. So I guess, knowing,
really is important. Just did not want to hurt her.
But I am thankful for many things in life. I am thankful that I have
my daughter, my mother, all animals and beauty in the world, all the
groups I am on that I can call home now with all the wonderful people
including yourself hear to listen, understand and help. I am
thankful for my messy house! LOL The fact that I live 1500 miles
away from Texas! LMAO hmm! I can think of many things to be thankful
for, and most of all, for God, carrying me through all the rough
times I have had to endure! So yes, Their are so many things to
think about rather than the negative! Now, if I can just get my
mother to stop calling me and updating me on my brother and what he
is up to now! LOL Well, Queen of denial has worked for me for many
years. Stuff does seem to sneak up on you when you least expect it
when you store it away to I just really don't want to know or think
about it! LMAO
Thank you John!! Hugs and Prayers ((()))...)))